Dictator Trump threatens social media after Twitter fact-checks him
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I thoughy the sanctity of the vote was so very precious. It's either important enough to seriously address every possibility of fraud, or it isn't. Case closed.
You act as if every single Covid death was and is preventable. Ridiculous. Case closed.
Twitter wasn't happy with Trump's non factual post and then countered with their own non factual response. Laughable that anyone would think Twitter has a policy at all other than pushing a political agenda
Should replace the pulling soldier with Trump.Nobody is doing more to help elect Biden than Trump.
Yes, voting is important. A handful of fraudulent votes out of millions will not change the outcome. Did I say every COVID-19 death was preventable, or are you putting words into my mouth for your straw man routine? The death toll in the US as of this post is 103,345. That's 312 per million. In South Korea, it is 5 per million. Do the math. The US got Trumped.
I'm in Canada, and I'm not suggesting it couldn't have been handled here much better either. In fact, I live in the province that has more than half the cases and deaths, and it is the one most aggressively seeking to re-open. Beyond stupid.
You're on the fringes here. Careful not to fall off.
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You wrote that 100,000 deaths were "unnecessary". I take that as meaning they were all preventable. You are minimizing the impact of voter fraud and magnifying the Covid deaths as if all of humanity is on the brink of extinction. Both need to be addressed with proper perspective, and that's not happening in either case.
You can't prevent ALL voter fraud and you can't prevent ALL COVID-19 deaths. Period. We are dealing in reality, or at least most of us are. It is a question of materiality. The few incidents of voter fraud are not meaningful enough to sway elections; they are as immaterial as they are inevitable. The magnitude of the death toll from the coronavirus is material and was largely preventable.
How many votes did Trump win Michigan by? 10,500. That's pretty much "a handful" when 4.5M people voted. With that win, he got 16 EC votes. PA was like 24K votes, for 20 EC's. Another "handful".
This constant reference to past incidents (and #'s) being bandied about here regarding what could happen going forward is bs... I mean, there's always a first time for everything. As I see it, right now the perfect storm brewing between Covid, social unrest, and a level of divisiveness heretofore unseen in this country. I suppose maybe the 60's might have had it, but they didn't have Covid forcing many to perhaps stay home.
I'll give you the fact that with "in person" voting it would be difficult to sway the results... ID's or not...I've always thought that. But is there anyone here that can honestly say that mail-in ballots en-masse, at least as they exist now... wouldn't be the easiest thing in the world to cheat with? I mean think about it. No ID, no verification of who actually filled out a ballot, voter rolls that are woefully inaccurate.... Lets at least be honest with each other here... they are ripe for fraud.
That's considerably more than the "handful" I was referring to. Do you have ANY evidence that there has been anywhere near those kinds of numbers of voter fraud in recent history?
No, I don't. I agree with you. But like I said, if Covid heats up again and we're forced to use mail-in ballots... its gonna be ripe for fraud. One would like to think everyone's honest and we as Americans all have integrity... but unfortunately that is so far from the truth its sad.
All I'm saying is this Freddy.... and I have been saying it for awhile now.... I'm not taking sides, and I don't have a solution... I'm only doing what I do with stocks and the markets in general; ...predicting things.
These battleground states are gonna be close, and there are in fact a few red states that may flip blue. If Covid forces states to predominately rely on mail-in ballots, there will be allegations of fraud by Team Trump and the Pub's in general. It's a given. I don't care if its 100 votes or 100,000.... they will scream foul and demand...(I don't know what). Recounts? That's not gonna get it since it won't be the "count" that's in question. It'll be the validity of the ballot. How will they verify that on a large scale? Knock on doors and demand to see ID's and check signatures? Its an impossible task.
Then who decides who won? SCOTUS? I have no idea. But I do see it coming. One big constitutional mess. Lets just hope Covid goes away. I think that's wishful thinking however.
If (when!) Trump loses he will most assuredly allege voter fraud. It's a given.
I would imagine that the states have checks and balances to ensure voter integrity. It's not like the process is something new. And if Trump sees fit to vote by mail, then WTF does he think he is to deprive others of doing so? It's not a "privilege" limited to presidents.