DHS Officers Armed With Semiautomatics Set Up Unannounced ID Checkpoint

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The 9/11 terrorists won...

We overreacted so predictably. They must be overjoyed that we have destroyed our own freedoms in response.

America is becoming a nightmare. So much for "land of the free".
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Then Why-O-fucking-Why don't you support Ron Paul?

He is the only dude in the GOP field that will relentlessly uphold the Constitution and put all this Police State crap in the garbage. And you know it.
 
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Listen, Ricter, I like you. But you need to get off the pussy-train.

Just because some of the most Constitution-destroying legislation was passed under your boys watch, doesn't mean you gotta circle the wagons and defend him. We're all in this boat, together.
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And to be fair, it's not like Bush didn't have a huge hand in this by getting the ball rolling and breaking new and sacred ground. Obama simply took it ten steps further down the road. Just imagine the next four years with this guy, or whoever else the kingmakers bless us with.

If you are still thinking in terms of Republican and Democrat, you are doing it wrong.
 
That is a bad bill. I think any American who provides material support to terrorists or participates in actions against the United States should be executed.
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Bill aims to strip certain Americans of their citizenship
May 06, 2010|By Ed Hornick, CNN

A bipartisan group of legislators on Thursday introduced legislation in Congress to strip citizenship from any American found to be involved in terrorism.

If the Terrorist Expatriation Act passes, an American would lose citizenship if found to have provided material support or resources to a foreign terrorist organization -- as designated by the secretary of state -- or participated in actions against the United States.

Sens. Joe Lieberman, I-Connecticut, and Scott Brown, R-Massachusetts, co-sponsored the bill. An identical bill is being introduced in the House by Reps. Jason Altmire, D-Pennsylvania, and Charlie Dent, R-Pennsylvania.

http://articles.cnn.com/2010-05-06/...p-joe-lieberman-identical-bill?_s=PM:POLITICS
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People are the least of their concerns... It's the banks, law firms and corporations that provide material assistance. I don't see any provisions in this bill where if a corp provides assistance the feds can put in place a receiver, seize all of their assets and shut them down.

Any attorney that provides representation or advise would be subject to expatriation. Seems this bill will over reach or even trump personal jurisdiction issues.



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That is a bad bill. I think any American who provides material support to terrorists or participates in actions against the United States should be executed.
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That is a bad bill. I think any American who provides material support to terrorists or participates in actions against the United States should be executed.
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We already have laws against treason.

There is a more specific reason these latest laws have not so specific definitions.
 
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That is a bad bill. I think any American who provides material support to terrorists or participates in actions against the United States should be executed.
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Interesting perspective. What if someone is wrongfully accused?
 
I think there is a constitutional problem with random checks. This is unreasonable search. I'm not sure how they get away with DUI check points either.

Anyway, the American people are approaching a tipping point where they will demand a stop to this nonsense.

Keep up the silly labels guys. neocon, demopublican, republocrat. Funny! :D
 
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"Material Support". Since that is differentiated from "resources", it can and will eventually be applied to anything critical of the government (if you are not with us, you are with them).

Oh yeah, and why the hell are duel citizens allowed to hold office...doesn't that seem like a conflict of interests?
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Yup. Exactly. And material support is such an opened ended term. But back up for a second. The 5th and 6th Amendment guarantees every American a trial, regardless. The assumption that there's reasonable instances where the Government should "Revoke" citizenship in the first place, is lawless, and totally outside the Constitution. Ya, it sucks when we get a McVeigh, but that's the law. And that's the same law that protects the 10,000 innocent people for every one shit-bagger we get. It's insanity that people even think it's okay to let the Feds decide who gets to "keep" their citizenship. That would make all our Constitutional protections arbitrary on what the Feds decide. And guess what? That's EXACTLY what they're trying to do. Holy f*ck.
 
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I think there is a constitutional problem with random checks. This is unreasonable search. I'm not sure how they get away with DUI check points either.

Anyway, the American people are approaching a tipping point where they will demand a stop to this nonsense.

Keep up the silly labels guys. neocon, demopublican, republocrat. Funny! :D
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Lol, hadn't seen those last two labels before.

What about cameras on every street corner and building? Same thing, random checks, imho.
 
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