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[pspr]

Quote from AK Forty Seven:

The founders abolished the government because they couldn't vote them out(No taxation without representation).We have representation

Read your history.

That’s not a far-fetched, treasonous comment. Look, I know, that’s a crazy statement. But it’s not just some off the wall, nutty statement with no basis grounded in practical reality. In fact, the statement comes directly from the new $100 bill set to be released by the United States Treasury. Here is the exact quote:

“That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.”

http://mattweidnerlaw.com/blog/2011...orrupt-united-states-government-new-100-bill/

 

[AK Forty Seven]

Quote from pspr:

Read your history.

That’s not a far-fetched, treasonous comment. Look, I know, that’s a crazy statement. But it’s not just some off the wall, nutty statement with no basis grounded in practical reality. In fact, the statement comes directly from the new $100 bill set to be released by the United States Treasury. Here is the exact quote:

“That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.”

http://mattweidnerlaw.com/blog/2011...orrupt-united-states-government-new-100-bill/

Thats from The Declaration of Independence,not The Constitution. The Constitution came after The Declaration of Independence and is the law of the land

 

[pspr]

Quote from AK Forty Seven:

Thats from The Declaration of Independence,not The Constitution. The Constitution came after The Declaration of Independence and is the law of the land

It is what the Founders believed and it is part of us. Just as the statement in the Declaration of Independence that all men are created equal, this carries the weight of giving the power to the people to make that decision to retain the existing government, alter it or abolish it and start over. It is a Right of the governed.

 

[AK Forty Seven]

Quote from pspr:

It is what the Founders believed and it is part of us. Just as the statement in the Declaration of Independence that all men are created equal, this carries the weight of giving the power to the people to make that decision to retain the existing government, alter it or abolish it and start over. It is a Right of the governed.

Does the Constitution say that ?

 

[PiggyBank]

Quote from AK Forty Seven:

1.I was not instigating anything ,I didn't insult anyone.My apologies if you felt insulted

2.IN MY OPINION They probably feel they need it because of people saying things like this and they want to be prepared in case people like this follow through with their threats

3.I dont think the gov ever had intentions to disarm everyone nor do I think it will ever happen but legally The Constitution can be changed to outlaw guns(no I don't support that)

2) None of those guys are starting a war or even trying to start a war. They are saying its inevitable. Ask yourself honestly why the population is being polarized.. is it because one side is really just a bunch of sore losers OR is it because our govt is becoming increasingly oppressive and operating outside of the limits placed upon it?

3) You don't think so, really? Listen to your boy Coumo, that guy is a fucking disgrace to this nation. He isn't the only one.

And as has been pointed out many times, the Constitution can be changed, and there is a process to do so. Attempts to circumvent that process or undermine our rights through legislation just isn't legitimate, and will create problems. Besides I'm not even certain that the Bill of Rights or any part of it can be repealed for any reason, ever.

"The whole of that Bill [of Rights] is a declaration of the right of the people at large or considered as individuals...t establishes some rights of the individual as unalienable and which consequently, no majority has a right to deprive them of." - Albert Gallatin

 

[achilles28]

Quote from pspr:

That's right.

And, although I don't care for Infowars opinions which are often meant to inflame, the facts of the size of ammo and gun purchases by a civilian agency cannot be denied.

Can something happen in the next four years that would create an armed conflict between civilians and the government? Possibly but it seems any large scale armed operation against civilians would be met with resistance not just from conservatives but from most Americans.

A serving General in Iraq testified before a congressional committee ~7 million ammunition rounds were used in Iraq, on a monthly basis, by US armed forces. Roughly 80 million a year. This is how the "10 year war" calculation was figured.

It would be interesting find out how much the consolidated federal agencies buy on an annual basis (fbi, border patrol, secret service, ice etc), including for practice.

 

[pspr]

Quote from AK Forty Seven:

Does the Constitution say that ?

As Abraham Lincoln, who led the United States during its fiercest battle over human rights -- the Civil War -- said of the Declaration more than a half-century later, its signers "meant simply to declare the right so that enforcement of it might follow as fast as circumstances might permit. They meant to set up a standard maxim for free society, which would be familiar to all and revered by all; constantly looked to, constantly labored for, and even though never perfectly attained, constantly approximated, and thereby constantly spreading and deepening its influence and augmenting the happiness and value of life to all people of all colors everywhere."

The Constitution is the law coming out of
The Declaration of Independence which is the creed.

 

[PiggyBank]

Quote from AK Forty Seven:

1) All men were not considered equal when that was written.2) Things change,the constitution can change and the founding fathers made it that way

1) yes they were, slaves were considered property, both by the slave owners and their own countrymen who sold them.

2) The US isn't the only nation in history to have slavery. It was corrected here by Amendment (the right way) and a long time ago.

 

[Lucrum]

Quote from AK Forty Seven:

....we can change our gov at the voting booth

ONLY in theory kid.
As I eluded to earlier the welfare/parasite classes and their bleeding heart cheerleaders now outnumber the productive tax payers. Is it your contention the welfare/parasite class will vote to stop their "free" entitlements and or get rid of the politicians giving it to them?

 

[Lucrum]

Quote from PiggyBank:

2) The US isn't the only nation in history to have slavery...

Just the only one constantly being demonized for it.