DeSantis for the win

ipatent said:
CDC Now Treats Unvaccinated The Same As Un-Boosted, Just As DeSantis Predicted
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Well good... long overdue.

Just like "natural immunity" to Covid where the antibodies decline over a period of months, your antibodies decline over a period of months with the first generation of Covid vaccines -- hence the need for boosters.

We should also point out that multiple studies have demonstrated previous Covid infection in the unvaccinated provides nearly no protection against "Omicron" -- yep, Omicron is the final nail in the coffin of those pushing "natural immunity".
 
DeSantis doing such an awful job, the whole state is turning red!

https://twitter.com/x/status/1478463141365403651

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gwb-trading said:
Ron DeSantis echoes Trump’s old too-much-covid-testing mantra
https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...oes-trumps-old-too-much-covid-testing-mantra/

Many aspects of Donald Trump’s coronavirus response were rather inexplicable — but at the same time rather explicable if you viewed them in light of his political goals. Perhaps the chief example was his repeated suggestions that we were testing too much. Trump wanted to reopen society and have a booming economy ahead of his 2020 reelection bid; proof of lots of people getting sick didn’t help — even as the alternative meant people who could spread the virus (and make the whole situation worse) might not know it.

His own coronavirus adviser, Deborah Birx, has since testified that this had a deleterious impact on the administration’s response. Health officials in August 2020 suddenly downgraded their guidance on when to get tested — in line with Trump’s suggestions — and Birx said this wound up coming at a particularly inopportune time, with real-world consequences.

Through it all, even Trump’s allies weren’t really on the less-testing train. But now, perhaps his likeliest successor as a GOP presidential nominee — the man who has long been a leading indicator of the GOP’s coronavirus posture — is going down a similar road. He’s also doing so at a rather curious time.

Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis (R) has signaled twice in the past two days that Florida will adjust its testing guidelines to discourage too much testing.

During an appearance with controversial state Surgeon General Joseph Ladapo on Monday, Ladapo stated that, “We need to unwind this sort of planning and living one’s life around testing.”

DeSantis suggested that he was on the same page, saying people buying up rapid tests and testing without symptoms has created “some of the crunch that you are seeing.”

In further comments Tuesday, DeSantis again signaled a move away from mass testing, suggesting it was a symptom of covid “hysteria.”

“As Joe said, you do have people — when kind of the hysteria gets going, you’ll have certain people who will go out and will just get tested all the time at some of these sites,” DeSantis said. “And that’s not a good use of resources. And so he’s going to put out guidance that talks about some the examples where it makes sense, where it doesn’t.”

There is no question that some people might be overzealous about using up a finite amount of tests. But it’s also true that this particular moment in time is probably the one in which there’s probably the least evidence that we’re seeing too many tests.

Florida is dealing with a record surge in cases, but that’s hardly unique to it right now. Its overall per capita numbers of deaths and cases are also on the high end, though below some redder and less-vaccinated states and states that bore the brunt of the early pandemic.

What matters most in terms of the present discussion, though, is another key number: its test-positivity rate. Around 30 percent of people who have been tested over the past week in Florida have tested positive. That’s the highest that number has been at any point in the pandemic and the seventh-highest number in the country. As recently as a month ago, only 3 out of every 100 tests there came back positive; now it’s 3 in 10.

DeSantis’s comments come even as some in Florida have cried foul over his administration declining to reopen state testing facilities amid the surge and long testing lines. In an interview with The Washington Post last week, a DeSantis spokeswoman cited data showing infections with the omicron variant are generally more mild and asymptomatic. She also cited data from a health system in Miami showing that a majority of patients who tested positive for the virus were admitted for other reasons but were given tests and tested positive.

One way to read that is that lots of people who aren’t really that sick with covid-19 just happen to have contracted a mild/asymptomatic case and will be fine. Another is that lots of people who wouldn’t otherwise know it have contracted the virus and can still spread it … to people who might not be so fortunate.

This was the bargain at the heart of Trump’s less-testing gambit back in 2020, when he made clear that he really didn’t like how the statistics made him look. (Birx later testified: “I had seen the dramatic decline in testing at a time when we needed a dramatic increase in testing to prevent us from having the depth and breadth of community spread that I knew was coming with the fall surge.”)

It’s probably a better bargain now that cases of the virus appear to be less severe and that the omicron peaks in other countries appear to have come relatively quickly following the variant’s arrival. But it’s still a bargain with real consequences.

If the reason for that gamble is that we simply don’t have enough testing and need to focus on people who are sick and want to know why, that makes some sense. And DeSantis has pointed in that direction. But the defenses from his office about the mildness of cases and his surgeon general’s comments, in particular, point to testing more as an impediment to the resumption of our daily lives — even as an unprecedented number of people who do get tested are testing positive and potentially spreading the virus.

Which sounds rather familiar.
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"It's not how many tests you take, it's who uploads the results to the health department website that matters"___Ron Defascist
 
So tell us --- how will I know I need "Early Treatment" if you are telling us "not to get tested". Does Regeneron Ron even understand that getting tested is a prerequisite for monoclonal antibody treatment.

Also keeping in mind that an ounce of prevention ("vaccination") is worth many pounds of cure.

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https://twitter.com/x/status/1478505514778738692
gwb-trading said:
So tell us --- how will I know I need "Early Treatment" if you are telling us "not to get tested". Does Regeneron Ron even understand that getting tested is a prerequisite for monoclonal antibody treatment.

Also keeping in mind that an ounce of prevention ("vaccination") is worth many pounds of cure.

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He's telling people to not get tested when they are feeling fine, dopey. All the people standing in line because they're freaked out that the sneeze they just had means they're about to die.
 
Let's see how things are going in DeSantis's Florida. Oh, so much "winning".

Record-breaking COVID cases in Florida causing strain in hospitals and essential services
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/covid-florida-hospitals-essential-services/

Omicron surge: Florida moves up on Top 10 list of states where COVID-19 is spreading the fastest
https://www.jacksonville.com/story/...st-states-virus-spreading-fastest/9076265002/

So much for education...
Thousands of teachers, students absent as Omicron ravages Florida
https://www.politico.com/states/flo...nts-absent-as-omicron-ravages-florida-1403882
 
gwb-trading said:
Let's see how things are going in DeSantis's Florida. Oh, so much "winning".

Record-breaking COVID cases in Florida causing strain in hospitals and essential services
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/covid-florida-hospitals-essential-services/

Omicron surge: Florida moves up on Top 10 list of states where COVID-19 is spreading the fastest
https://www.jacksonville.com/story/...st-states-virus-spreading-fastest/9076265002/

So much for education...
Thousands of teachers, students absent as Omicron ravages Florida
https://www.politico.com/states/flo...nts-absent-as-omicron-ravages-florida-1403882
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All those tourists! Right, GWB?

Love the "thousands of teachers, students absent".

The Panic Porn King spreading his spam...

It’s impossible to say whether every absence was tied to Covid-19...​
 
ipatent said:
CDC Now Treats Unvaccinated The Same As Un-Boosted, Just As DeSantis Predicted
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CDC urges ‘up to date’ shots; no ‘fully vaccinated’ change
https://apnews.com/article/coronavirus-pandemic-business-health-05b0e2d761a900f305018701173b5f7f

U.S. health officials said Wednesday they are not changing the qualifications for being “fully vaccinated” against COVID-19, but they are urging Americans to stay “up to date” on their protection against the virus by getting booster shots when eligible.

The move to keep the existing definition of fully vaccinated — either two doses of the mRNA vaccines from Pfizer and Moderna or a single dose of the Johnson & Johnson vaccine — comes as health officials warned of waning protections from the initial doses. They are encouraging Americans to get additional doses to stave off serious illness and death from the delta and omicron variants.

The decision to keep the initial definition, established more than a year ago when the vaccines first rolled out, means that federal vaccination mandates for travel or employment won’t require a booster dose.

Maintaining the existing definition of “fully vaccinated” could make it more difficult to encourage some Americans who only begrudgingly got their primary doses of the vaccine to get boosted, since they would not face onerous restrictions often imposed on the unvaccinated — including testing requirements or, in some jurisdictions, being barred from indoor dining and other facilities.

“Individuals are considered fully vaccinated against COVID-19 if they’ve received their primary series,” said Centers for Disease Control and Prevention Director Dr. Rochelle Walensky. “That definition is not changing.”

The CDC instead posted information for Americans to more easily determine their eligibility for booster doses so as to remain up to date with their COVID-19 shots.

“We are now recommending that individuals stay up to date with additional doses that they are eligible for,” Walensky added.

Similarly, Jeff Zients, the White House COVID-19 coordinator, said the administration was not considering an adjustment to require booster shots for international travel or for workers covered by a slew of vaccination mandates instituted by President Joe Biden to press tens of millions of Americans to get the shots.

“That has not changed and we do not have any plans to change that,” he told reporters during a White House briefing.

More than 71 million Americans have received a booster dose, according to CDC data.

“I do think it’s really important to recognize the vast majority of hospitalizations and deaths are among the unvaccinated Americans,” Zients said. “Completing the primary vaccination series is clearly a critical step to prevent severe outcomes, with boosters as Dr. Walensky said, giving the highest level of protection.”

He added, “As to the definition, someone is considered fully vaccinated if they’ve received their primary series of vaccine.”

On Wednesday, shortly before the White House briefing, the CDC revised an agency web site that had been entitled “When You’ve Been Fully Vaccinated” that defined the term and talked about what people could do after they achieved that level of protection.

It was retitled “Stay Up to Date with Vaccines,” and used the term “fully vaccinated” sparingly, to describe the primary series. Much of the site discussed additional and booster doses.

Asked about the change, a CDC spokeswoman said the definition of “fully vaccinated” has not changed. But she also said: “CDC will now use the phrase ‘up to date’ when talking about COVID-19 vaccination. CDC recommends that individuals stay ‘up to date’ by receiving any additional doses they are eligible for, according to CDC’s recommendations, to ensure they have optimal protection against COVID-19.”

Dr. Anthony Fauci, Biden’s top science adviser on the COVID-19 response, said Tuesday that the administration was shifting how it talked about vaccinations and getting booster doses.

“We’re using the terminology now ‘keeping your vaccinations up to date,’ rather than what ‘fully vaccinated’ means,” he said during a National Institutes of Health lecture.
 
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