Take a look at that chart now. How long is it going to take that dense brain of yours to figure out what the charts are telling you and how they change over time ? Jesus, you've had over a year to figure this out and you are still oblivious. Math, not YOUR strong suit. Your posts the last two months are a comedy of errors where you have the audacity to post sarcastic replies to others presenting you with the real data and its context. Fuck your dumb, yes we get it, you don't want to accept the truth about Covid in Florida.
DeSantis for the win
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Take a look at that chart now. How long is it going to take that dense brain of yours to figure out what the charts are telling you and how they change over time ? Jesus, you've had over a year to figure this out and you are still oblivious. Math, not YOUR strong suit. Your posts the last two months are a comedy of errors where you have the audacity to post sarcastic replies to others presenting you with the real data and its context. Fuck your dumb, yes we get it, you don't want to accept the truth about Covid in Florida.
Let compare California to other states now...
California coronavirus cases dropping, CDC says
https://www.sandiegouniontribune.co...alifornia-coronavirus-cases-dropping-cdc-says
California’s coronavirus transmission rates are dropping, a hopeful sign amid a summer surge fueled by the Delta variant, according to new data from the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.
The state’s coronavirus transmission level has fallen from “high” to “substantial,” the second-highest tier as defined by the CDC.
As of Tuesday night, California is the only state that has fallen into this category, as has Puerto Rico. The CDC’s scale evaluating coronavirus transmission levels categorizes states as being in one of four tiers: the worst — high — is color-coded as red; followed by substantial (orange), moderate (yellow) and low (blue).
California is “the only large state to improve from red to orange COVID-19 community levels of transmission,” state epidemiologist Dr. Erica Pan said in a tweet Monday night. She credited relatively high vaccination rates, as well as indoor masking practices, in helping drive down new coronavirus infections.
Mask orders are in place in counties where a majority of Californians live, but there is no statewide order requiring indoor mask use in public settings.
California entered the second-highest tier of coronavirus transmission on Monday night, a tier it shared with just two other states, Connecticut and Vermont, as well as the District of Columbia and Puerto Rico. By Tuesday night, Connecticut, Vermont and the District of Columbia had fallen back into the worst tier.
It was not immediately clear whether data-processing delays were a factor in California’s lower rate of community transmission. Los Angeles County did not report any cases Saturday or Sunday because of a planned system upgrade.
As a result, it likely will take a couple of days to determine whether the change in California’s status is the result of a blip in data or represents a true change in conditions. The CDC updates its tier assignments for each state every evening Monday through Saturday.
Nonetheless, the trend in new weekly coronavirus cases headed into last weekend suggests a notable decline in recent weeks, which could bring eventual relief to areas like the Central Valley and rural Northern California, where many hospitals are still overwhelmed by COVID-19 patients.
As of Friday night, California reported a 27% decline in weekly cases over the last two weeks, from an average of 13,400 cases a day for the seven-day period that ended Aug. 27 to about 9,800 cases a day for the week that ended Friday, according to a Los Angeles Times analysis of data provided by the state Department of Public Health.
Over the same period, the San Francisco Bay Area reported a decline in weekly cases of 36%; Southern California, 28%; the Greater Sacramento area, 27%; the San Joaquin Valley, 18%; and rural Northern California, 15%.
The nation as a whole is also seeing new weekly coronavirus cases begin to fall. About 118,000 new coronavirus cases a day were reported across the U.S. over the seven-day period that ended Sunday; the previous week’s average was about 152,000 cases a day.
Hospitals, however, remain under stress in parts of California, especially in areas like rural Northern California and the Central Valley. The regions have the state’s worst rates of hospitalization for COVID-19: For every 100,000 residents, the San Joaquin Valley has 37 people in the hospital with COVID-19; in rural Northern California, there are 30; and in the Greater Sacramento area, there are 27, according to The Times’ analysis.
By contrast, Southern California’s rate is 15 and the Bay Area’s is 10.
Some experts say when COVID-19 hospitalizations rise beyond five hospitalizations for every 100,000 residents, it can be prudent to take emergency COVID-19 measures, such as indoor mask orders.
The San Joaquin Valley has reported the least relief in COVID-19 hospitalizations in the last two weeks. COVID-19 hospitalizations fell by only 2% in the San Joaquin Valley, 13% in the Greater Sacramento area and 14% in rural Northern California.
By contrast, those hospitalizations fell by 24% in Southern California and the Bay Area over that same time.
In the most populous county of the San Joaquin Valley, Fresno County, officials warned last week they were so overwhelmed that hospitals were on the precipice of being forced to ration healthcare to patients.
Home to more than 4 million people — more populous than 24 other states — the San Joaquin Valley has faced an extreme shortage of available staffed intensive care unit beds, so much that some critically ill patients have had to be airlifted more than 100 miles away.
Regional ICU availability in the San Joaquin Valley has been below 10% for 13 consecutive days, and state officials have ordered surge protocols that stipulate general acute-care hospitals must accept transfer patients if directed — provided they have room and that doing so is considered “clinically appropriate.”
In Del Norte County, on the northern edge of California, more than half of hospitalized patients at the main hospital in Crescent City have COVID-19. By contrast, in Los Angeles County, just 11% of hospitalized patients have COVID-19, according to The Times’ COVID-19 hospital tracker.
Nationwide, new daily COVID-19 hospital admissions have fallen. For the seven-day period that ended Saturday, the nation was recording about 11,100 new COVID-19 hospital admissions a day, a reduction of 8% from the previous week, according to the CDC.
Daily COVID-19 deaths continue rising, however. California was reporting about 116 COVID-19 deaths a day for the seven-day period that ended Friday.
That’s up nearly 50% from the week that ended Aug. 27, when California was recording about 79 deaths a day.
The latest daily death tallies are still markedly smaller than during the winter surge, during which most Californians were not fully vaccinated. At its height, California was recording nearly 550 COVID-19 deaths a day.
Let's see where the case rate in California stands. Sad that Florida is nowhere close to this...
California reports lowest COVID-19 case rate in the country
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/california-covid-lowest-positivity-rate/
@Tsing Tao claimed that Florida was not shipping Covid patients out of state -- hence they are not counted in Florida's hospitalization numbers but counted in another state -- and if they do not survive their deaths are not counted in Florida. He even argued over the definition of "recently". Well recently there are still Florida Covid patients being shipped hundred of miles out of state. This is the story of one who was shipped to Connecticut earlier.
Florida Dad Finally Gets Life-Saving COVID Treatment After Family Reached Out to 169 Hospitals
https://www.yahoo.com/news/florida-dad-finally-gets-life-155650489.html
Florida Dad Finally Gets Life-Saving COVID Treatment After Family Reached Out to 169 Hospitals
https://www.yahoo.com/news/florida-dad-finally-gets-life-155650489.html
DeSantis selects a Covid-denier nut as his new state Surgeon General. An idiot who signed the "Great Barrington Declaration" and says Dr. Jay Bhattacharya is his good friend
'Fear is done': Florida's new surgeon general outspoken critic of COVID lockdowns, mandates
'There is nothing special about (vaccines) compared to any other preventive measure,' Dr. Joseph Ladapo said
https://www.tallahassee.com/story/n...to-be-florida-new-surgeon-general/5798242001/
Dr. Joseph Ladapo — a UCLA medical professor who has published controversial articles about “COVID mania” and is an outspoken critic of lockdowns, mask mandates and other mitigation measures — has been tapped to be Florida's new surgeon general, Gov. Ron DeSantis announced Tuesday.
Ladapo, who was hired Monday at the University of Florida College of Medicine, said he wants to usher in a new era of battling the COVID-19 pandemic in Florida, one that sets a model for other states to follow.
“Florida will completely reject fear. Fear is done,” Ladapo said during a press briefing after the regularly scheduled Florida Cabinet meeting in the Capitol.
DeSantis said his appointment as surgeon general and his hire at UF were two separate things, and based solely on his credentials.
"I don't think anyone who interviewed him knew he was going to be appointed to this," DeSantis said. "It wasn't anything we had done and obviously we wanted to see how that shaped out before we formally offered him."
For UF, which U.S. News & World Report ranked the fifth best public university in the country, "to get someone of Joe's caliber" from third-ranked UCLA is a major coup, he added.
"I’m happy he got this job and I think he’s going to do a great job, but that's a big deal," DeSantis said. "Any university would be foolish not to want to get this guy."
Like his predecessor,Scott Rivkees, also a professor at the UF College of Medicine, Ladapo will split his duties between his professorship at UF and his state role as surgeon general and secretary of Florida's Department of Health.
Ladapo’s base yearly salary was set at the 50th percentile for a professor of general internal medicine, or $262,000, said Ken Garcia, spokesman for the UF College of Medicine.
"We anticipate that the Florida Department of Health will contribute a significant portion of this salary based on the percentage of time he dedicates to the surgeon general role," Garcia said in an email to the USA TODAY Network-Florida.
The state will contribute more to Ladapo's salary than it had to Rivkees's. Under the agreement, Ladapo will spend 80% of his time as surgeon general and 20% working for UF.
Rivkees, whose contract with the state ended Sept. 20, had a similar arrangement with for the past two years and three months, with UF contributing $140,000 a year to his $239,000 salary.
Neither Rivkees, a pediatric endocrinologist, nor Ladapo, a cardiovascular specialist, are trained in epidemiology, virology or public health. Yet Ladapo has written volumes on the subject.
Ladapo says science, not opinion, should guide policy
Tuesday, Ladapo said he understood that during a crisis people can be fearful and that state leaders should show compassion. But he added that “fear doesn’t lead to good decisions.”
Ladapo also said he would be clear that the Department of Health draws a distinction between science and opinion: “People have been taking the science and misrepresenting it,” he said, hinting at mainstream public health officials who have been setting policy for the nation.
“You will know when we are talking about data and opinion. Never lose sight that public health is not just one thing. It is not just about the amount of COVID at a single location."
The news of his appointment drew immediate praise from Jenny Beth Martin, honorary chair of Tea Party Patriots Action, a national nonprofit fighting medical mandates.
“I have had the honor and privilege of working with Dr. Ladapo over the past year, and I have seen first-hand that he is a well-researched, well-credentialed medical doctor with strong character and leadership traits,” Martin said.
“He is well-spoken, thoughtful, and as his Wall Street Journal op-eds have demonstrated, he has a gift for communicating medical information to the public in a factual and persuasive manner."
'We need to respect human rights'
Ladapo is a signatory of the Great Barrington Declaration, which expresses concerns about prevailing policies for treating the COVID-19 pandemic.
It was co-written by Dr. Jay Bhattacharya, a professor at Stanford University Medical School, epidemiologist and public health policy expert who has participated in several COVID panels hosted by DeSantis.
Ladapo called Bhattacharya a "good friend" but said he didn't agree with everything in the declaration before it was made public.
"There is this idea that things are black and white, you have to wear a mask all the time or not, that you have to get vaccinated or not," Ladapo said. "The spirit of Great Barrington is that we need to respect human rights, people have autonomy over their lives and that it is not OK, not virtuous, not right to take away those rights."
He didn't mention anything about promoting the COVID vaccine, which DeSantis has stopped promoting publicly in lieu of boosting monoclonal antibody treatments. Ladapo said getting vaccinated is a matter of personal choice.
"There is nothing special about them compared to any other preventive measure," he said. "The great thing about the vaccine for COVID-19 is that it prevents the risk of serious illness. Fantastic. People get to make the choice about what they want to do with that information."
But he said vaccination is not the only path to good health.
"It’s been treated almost like a religion and that’s just senseless," Ladapo said. "We support measures to good health. That’s vaccination, losing weight, exercising more, eating more fruits and vegetables, everything."
'Fear is done': Florida's new surgeon general outspoken critic of COVID lockdowns, mandates
'There is nothing special about (vaccines) compared to any other preventive measure,' Dr. Joseph Ladapo said
https://www.tallahassee.com/story/n...to-be-florida-new-surgeon-general/5798242001/
Dr. Joseph Ladapo — a UCLA medical professor who has published controversial articles about “COVID mania” and is an outspoken critic of lockdowns, mask mandates and other mitigation measures — has been tapped to be Florida's new surgeon general, Gov. Ron DeSantis announced Tuesday.
Ladapo, who was hired Monday at the University of Florida College of Medicine, said he wants to usher in a new era of battling the COVID-19 pandemic in Florida, one that sets a model for other states to follow.
“Florida will completely reject fear. Fear is done,” Ladapo said during a press briefing after the regularly scheduled Florida Cabinet meeting in the Capitol.
DeSantis said his appointment as surgeon general and his hire at UF were two separate things, and based solely on his credentials.
"I don't think anyone who interviewed him knew he was going to be appointed to this," DeSantis said. "It wasn't anything we had done and obviously we wanted to see how that shaped out before we formally offered him."
For UF, which U.S. News & World Report ranked the fifth best public university in the country, "to get someone of Joe's caliber" from third-ranked UCLA is a major coup, he added.
"I’m happy he got this job and I think he’s going to do a great job, but that's a big deal," DeSantis said. "Any university would be foolish not to want to get this guy."
Like his predecessor,Scott Rivkees, also a professor at the UF College of Medicine, Ladapo will split his duties between his professorship at UF and his state role as surgeon general and secretary of Florida's Department of Health.
Ladapo’s base yearly salary was set at the 50th percentile for a professor of general internal medicine, or $262,000, said Ken Garcia, spokesman for the UF College of Medicine.
"We anticipate that the Florida Department of Health will contribute a significant portion of this salary based on the percentage of time he dedicates to the surgeon general role," Garcia said in an email to the USA TODAY Network-Florida.
The state will contribute more to Ladapo's salary than it had to Rivkees's. Under the agreement, Ladapo will spend 80% of his time as surgeon general and 20% working for UF.
Rivkees, whose contract with the state ended Sept. 20, had a similar arrangement with for the past two years and three months, with UF contributing $140,000 a year to his $239,000 salary.
Neither Rivkees, a pediatric endocrinologist, nor Ladapo, a cardiovascular specialist, are trained in epidemiology, virology or public health. Yet Ladapo has written volumes on the subject.
Ladapo says science, not opinion, should guide policy
Tuesday, Ladapo said he understood that during a crisis people can be fearful and that state leaders should show compassion. But he added that “fear doesn’t lead to good decisions.”
Ladapo also said he would be clear that the Department of Health draws a distinction between science and opinion: “People have been taking the science and misrepresenting it,” he said, hinting at mainstream public health officials who have been setting policy for the nation.
“You will know when we are talking about data and opinion. Never lose sight that public health is not just one thing. It is not just about the amount of COVID at a single location."
The news of his appointment drew immediate praise from Jenny Beth Martin, honorary chair of Tea Party Patriots Action, a national nonprofit fighting medical mandates.
“I have had the honor and privilege of working with Dr. Ladapo over the past year, and I have seen first-hand that he is a well-researched, well-credentialed medical doctor with strong character and leadership traits,” Martin said.
“He is well-spoken, thoughtful, and as his Wall Street Journal op-eds have demonstrated, he has a gift for communicating medical information to the public in a factual and persuasive manner."
'We need to respect human rights'
Ladapo is a signatory of the Great Barrington Declaration, which expresses concerns about prevailing policies for treating the COVID-19 pandemic.
It was co-written by Dr. Jay Bhattacharya, a professor at Stanford University Medical School, epidemiologist and public health policy expert who has participated in several COVID panels hosted by DeSantis.
Ladapo called Bhattacharya a "good friend" but said he didn't agree with everything in the declaration before it was made public.
"There is this idea that things are black and white, you have to wear a mask all the time or not, that you have to get vaccinated or not," Ladapo said. "The spirit of Great Barrington is that we need to respect human rights, people have autonomy over their lives and that it is not OK, not virtuous, not right to take away those rights."
He didn't mention anything about promoting the COVID vaccine, which DeSantis has stopped promoting publicly in lieu of boosting monoclonal antibody treatments. Ladapo said getting vaccinated is a matter of personal choice.
"There is nothing special about them compared to any other preventive measure," he said. "The great thing about the vaccine for COVID-19 is that it prevents the risk of serious illness. Fantastic. People get to make the choice about what they want to do with that information."
But he said vaccination is not the only path to good health.
"It’s been treated almost like a religion and that’s just senseless," Ladapo said. "We support measures to good health. That’s vaccination, losing weight, exercising more, eating more fruits and vegetables, everything."
Would you like some Demon Sperm with that? How about some Hydroxychloroquine? Maybe some Ivermectin from the website where "America's Frontline Doctors" sell bogus treatments to grift the sheep. Vaccines aren't really important according to him. How about we follow his guidance and just let Covid spread unstopped and drive the death rate up. Meet your new Florida state Surgeon General, Joseph Ladapo, -- pusher of fake remedies, "America's Frontline Doctor" member, and a complete medical fiasco.
New Ron DeSantis surgeon general appeared in video with notorious 'alien DNA' doctor
https://www.rawstory.com/ron-desantis-surgeon-general-2655071056/
DeSantis hires a new surgeon general: A hydroxychloroquine pusher who appeared in ‘demon sperm’ doc’s video
https://www.alternet.org/2021/09/ron-desantis-surgeon-general/
New Ron DeSantis surgeon general appeared in video with notorious 'alien DNA' doctor
https://www.rawstory.com/ron-desantis-surgeon-general-2655071056/
DeSantis hires a new surgeon general: A hydroxychloroquine pusher who appeared in ‘demon sperm’ doc’s video
https://www.alternet.org/2021/09/ron-desantis-surgeon-general/
I am sure it is not hard to go out and find a doctor who will support your political message in exchange for being named to the position of Surgeon General.
I learned that on other medical issues doctors are not uniform or immune from letting their personal opinions cloud their professional advice on prescription drugs or treatments so COVID is not going to be any different
Yeah -- but this clown selected by DeSantis is a Hydroxychloroquine pusher, Ivermectin promoter, part of the "America's Frontline Doctors" which continually drives Covid misinformation for profit, a lead signer of the "Great Barrington Declaration", a Covid vaccination critic, an anti-masking advocate and a medical fiasco.
This goes well beyond a state Surgeon General holding "non-uniform" opinions -- this is a matter of the individual being completely unfit for the job.
Depends on what you mean by Florida, thought, was, and worst. Check with the latest definitions from the CDC.
