DeSantis for the win

gwb-trading said:
I posted all the articles quoting Gov DeSantis and outlining his administration's policies regarding nursing homes in detail. Feel free to go read them and educate yourself.

It's hard to believe that DeSantis would criticize Cuomo about nursing homes since the policies of the DeSantis administration not only do the same thing as Cuomo (put COVID patients into nursing homes) but are much more lax.
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I'm not going to waste time reading all your articles coming from sources who are just as slanted as you are and hate DeSantis as much as you hate him. As I said, I really don't give a shit. I know what the risk is to my family (the whole risk - both of the virus and the economic risk), and that's all that matters to me.

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gwb-trading said:
On a more complete note -- I wish your family a healthy and safe holiday season.
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You too, GWB. May you have a wonderful, safe holiday season and may your next year be prosperous and all that you hope.
 
The nursing home population makes up about one half percent of the total population, yet account for nearly 50 percent of the deaths. 250K dead divided in half and we're at 125 thousand. Toss out the old with health issues, morbidly obese, and those with comorbidities of a serious nature and we can half that number again. What are we left with? The equivalent of a really bad flu season. When have we done anything even remotely close to what we've been going through for that? Never.
 
CaptainObvious said:
The nursing home population makes up about one half percent of the total population, yet account for nearly 50 percent of the deaths. 250K dead divided in half and we're at 125 thousand. Toss out the old with health issues, morbidly obese, and those with comorbidities of a serious nature and we can half that number again. What are we left with? The equivalent of a really bad flu season. When have we done anything even remotely close to what we've been going through for that? Never.
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A really bad flu season + 50% more, plus 50% more again.

Or did those other 187,500 deaths not really "count". o_O
 
Tsing Tao said:
Is there a state where COVID is not on the rise in nursing homes?
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DeSantis and his associates keep harping on “protect the vulnerable”.

There is no group more vulnerable to COVID than nursing home residents.

Yet DeSantis has placed COVID positive patients in nursing homes (after criticizing New York for doing this). He opened up nursing homes for all visitors without restrictions while urging that family members should hug the residents. At the same time he cut all COVID testing funding for nursing homes. Now he allows you to remove and return nursing home residents without any type of COVID testing being required. All of this in a state where over 40% of COVID deaths are in nursing homes currently.

SAD
 
Tsing Tao said:
I can't imagine this increases the COVID death count. Instead, it will likely confirm what some of us have known all along, that COVID deaths are inflated because of monetary incentive. Please note in the list of JUST the deaths reported on OCT 20 is a 96, 97 and 99 year old. Their deaths are COVID's fault.

Florida Surgeon General Implements Additional Review Process for Fatalities Attributed to COVID-19 to Ensure Data Integrity

Of the 95 fatalities reported to the state on October 21, 2020, 16 had at least a two-month separation between the time the individuals tested positive and passed away, and 11 of the fatalities occurred more than a month ago

Today, Florida’s Surgeon General, Dr. Scott A. Rivkees, announced the Department of Health will conduct a more thorough review of all fatalities reported to the state.

Fatality data reported to the state consistently presents confusion and warrants a more rigorous review. Of the 95 fatalities reported to the state yesterday, 16 had more than a two-month separation between the time the individuals tested positive and passed away, and 11 of the deaths occurred more than a month ago.

Florida Surgeon General Scott Rivkees said, “During a pandemic, the public must be able to rely on accurate public health data to make informed decisions. To ensure the accuracy of COVID-19 related deaths, the Department will be performing additional reviews of all deaths. Timely and accurate data remains a top priority of the Department of Health.”

Of the 95 fatalities reported to the Florida Department of Health today:
  • 11 were over 30 days old;
  • 16 had at least two months between the time the individuals tested positive and passed away; and
  • 5 had at least three months between the time the individuals tested positive and passed away.
Here is the data reported to the Department of Health on October 20, 2020:

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This additional review process will not affect the work of any Epidemiologist or County Health Department in the state. All additional review will be conducted by the Department of Health’s central office.
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Back on the subject of reported deaths versus date of death.

Jason Salemi, a biostatistician and professor at the University of South Florida in Tampa has put together a very good resource presenting this information and other COVID data from the state of Florida.
http://covid19florida.mystrikingly.com/

He provides an entire set of tables, charts and graphs on day of death versus reported death date.
http://covid19florida.mystrikingly.com/deaths

One good example is this graph from a visual representation of the delay in number of days of a death being reported. Note the delay has increased significantly in recent weeks.

3. Lag in Reporting of COVID-19 Deaths
A graphical look
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There is also this view of reporting lag.

4. Deaths By Date of Death and When They Were Reported
Also a good illustration of reporting lag
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There are many other useful Florida COVID data resources on the website. All based on data provided from the state of Florida.

One example are these graphs on date of death and reported date of death. Note the recent few weeks are not complete until the state data catches up.

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There are also complete tables on COVID deaths by date aligned with reported days. All the information is downloadable and sharable. Many graphs allow you set date ranges, etc.
 
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CaptainObvious said:
The nursing home population makes up about one half percent of the total population, yet account for nearly 50 percent of the deaths. 250K dead divided in half and we're at 125 thousand. Toss out the old with health issues, morbidly obese, and those with comorbidities of a serious nature and we can half that number again. What are we left with? The equivalent of a really bad flu season. When have we done anything even remotely close to what we've been going through for that? Never.
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Your analysis here is terrible. If the restrictions weren't in play, it would be a lot, lot worse. The Covid Denial bs got old a long time ago.
 
Which restrictions?
How do you know?
Do you have any real data or just models and guesses?



Nine_Ender said:
Your analysis here is terrible. If the restrictions weren't in play, it would be a lot, lot worse. The Covid Denial bs got old a long time ago.
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