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Tsing Tao said:
Which one of these compares the "long lasting effects" of COVID 19 to the rate of long lasting effects from every day pneumonia or the flu or other coronaviruses?

I'll be happy to read an empirical study that does. But if all you're going to do is spam a bunch of articles that point to lingering effects of COVID, that's not telling me anything I don't already know.
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Once again... The reason the medical community does not do studies comparing the long term effects of the seasonal flu and COVID --- is the same reason they don't do studies comparing the long term effects of syphilis and COVID -- the results are meaningless when you compare two items that are very unalike.

Obviously, the flu primarily only causes respiratory issues during onset. COVID causes respiratory, vascular and organ issues during onset -- to any rational thinker (and from the medical evidence) the long term effects of a disease that involves additional involves vascular and organ issues from the onset will be worse than one merely with respiratory symptoms. There are certainly more documented examples of COVID long haulers over the past six months than people who endured long term effects from the H7N9 flu and other variants over the past decade -- based on the numerous COVID long hauler articles.
 
gwb-trading said:
Once again... The reason the medical community does not do studies comparing the long term effects of the seasonal flu and COVID --- is the same reason they don't do studies comparing the long term effects of syphilis and COVID -- the results are meaningless when you compare two items that are very unalike.
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That's unfortunate for you. Because if you can't tell me it is any worse to get COVID - in terms of long term effects than it is to get garden variety viral pneumonia, then why the hell should the argument about long term effects do anything? The same risk has been present my whole life.
 
Tsing Tao said:
That's unfortunate for you. Because if you can't tell me it is any worse to get COVID - in terms of long term effects than it is to get garden variety viral pneumonia, then why the hell should the argument about long term effects do anything? The same risk has been present my whole life.
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There is a reason that medical scientists don't spend time trying to compare things that are totally unalike. It is a waste of time.
 
GWB you fricken lying bullshitting moron.

1. Tell us ... how there can be even a long term studies for Covid?
Its less than a year old by most accounts.

2. The flu does all sorts of damage to old people.
I have heard quite few doctors compare Covid and the flu.
you don't know what the hell you are talking about.


look below...

See that one about myositis.


Well I happened to talk to a doctor the day I read the football coach opened his mouth about stuff he did not know...
the doctor instantly said that is also a side effect of flu for some. Its common knowledge to nurses and doctors the flu sometimes does other harm.


https://www.webmd.com/cold-and-flu/flu-complications#1

What Are the Most Common Complications?

They include viral or bacterial pneumonia, dehydration, and ear infections and sinus infections, especially in children. The flu can worsen long-term medical conditions, like congestive heart failure, asthma, or diabetes.



You might also have muscle inflammation (myositis), problems with your central nervous system, and heart problems such as heart attacks, inflammation of the organ (myocarditis), and inflammation of the sac around it (pericarditis).

Who’s Most Likely to Have Flu Complications?
  • Adults over 65
  • Children ages 6 months to 4 years
  • Nursing home residents
  • Adults and children with heart or lung disease
  • People with compromised immune systems (including people with HIV/AIDS)
  • Pregnant women
 
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It is more contagious, more deadly but maybe just maybe, perhaps, who knows there aren't long term effects.

"So you're telling me there's a chance."

Riiiiiiiiiiiiiight Dr Kildare.
 
jem said:
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look below...

See that one about myositis.


Well I happened to talk to a doctor the day I read the football coach opened his mouth about stuff he did not know...
the doctor instantly said that is also a side effect of flu for some. Its common knowledge to nurses and doctors the flu sometimes does other harm.
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Oh that's real conclusive.

A post, from who ? to ? and some filler.

Wow, WebMB, don't hold back, give us more.
 
read the thread... GWB was making shit up about medical risks of the flu.

I knew he was wrong because I have family and friends in medicine.

I gave a link to a site to back up my statement, since I am not a doctor.
That is how you do things if you are credible.


You are now have a short time in the leftist idiot penalty box.
(in honor of the national sport of a lot of these lefties.)

If you screw up again, I will give you a major.



SunTrader said:
Oh that's real conclusive.

A post, from who ? to ? and some filler.

Wow, WebMB, don't hold back, give us more.
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jem said:
read the thread... GWB was making shit up about medical risks of the flu.

I knew he was wrong because I have family and friends in medicine.

I gave a link to a site to back up my statement, since I am not a doctor.
That is how you do things if you are credible.


You are now have a short time in the leftist idiot penalty box.
(in honor of the national sport of a lot of these lefties.)

If you screw up again, I will give you a major.
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Are you pushing the assertion that the long term effects of the flu are worse than the long term effects of COVID?

Are you pushing the assertion that the percentage of infected people suffering long term effects from the seasonal flu is greater than the percentage from COVID?

Keep in mind that the study on the long term effects of the H7N9 Flu had to search to entire world to find 153 people to study.
 
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