"DeSantis compares the mission to kill bin Laden to his mission to kill school kids"
DeSantis for the win
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"DeSantis compares the mission to kill bin Laden to his mission to kill school kids"
You’re too stupid to know you’re stupid.
Typical Leftist response
DeSantis doing the same thing as New York.... returning COVID positive patients to nursing homes.
Concerns over Florida nursing home COVID-19 'isolation centers'
https://cbs12.com/news/local/concerns-over-florida-nursing-home-covid-19-isolation-centers
The State of Florida has 23 COVID-19 isolation centers at various nursing homes and long-term care facilities.
There are five of those centers housed in facilities between Palm Beach County and the Treasure Coast, according to a map from the Agency for Health Care Administration (AHCA).
In some facilities, this lesser known and little understood practice houses COVID-19 positive patients in the same complex as healthy, oftentimes older residents. The COVID-19 patients are typically kept in a separate wing or building from healthy residents and often have a dedicated staff specifically working in the isolation center.
But family members of some residents worry not enough is being done to keep their loved ones safe.
“There are no requirements in terms of how structures need to be sealed off. There are no requirements as to how air flow needs to flow,” said Danielle Cohen, whose grandfather lives in a Broward County long-term care facility now using a portion of their space as an isolation center.
The facilities are created through an agreement between the State of Florida and individual long term care companies, in which the company agrees to house COVID-19 positive patients who are usually discharged from a hospital but still require care. State officials have said isolation centers play an important role in ensuring sick people do not return to their regular nursing homes and in keeping hospital beds available.
Cohen asked staff at her grandfather’s facility and officials with AHCA about the exact requirements that nursing homes have to adhere to when serving as a long term care facility and what specific plans are in place to keep healthy residents from getting sick.
“It's been a mind numbing experience to learn all these lax policies and why I’ve taken it upon myself to get answers,” Cohen said. “There’s no oversight required prior to these long term care facilities opening the isolation wings.”
CBS12 News reached out to ACHA and asked what specific requirements long term care facilities have to meet and maintain to serve as isolation centers, but have not heard back yet.
A representative with the Florida Health Care Association, which represents a number of long term care facilities, said that all facilities follow CDC guidelines to prevent COVID-19 spread and have frequent, rapid testing from the state and federal government. She also added that facilities undergo an inspection from the state before they're approved as an isolation center.
Additionally, the Florida Health Care Association provided numerous links and presentations that were made available to nursing homes from the CDC, Florida Surgeon General Scott Rivkees, and industry groups that outline how nursing homes should create and maintain isolation centers. However, it’s unclear which of the policies are mandates and which are suggestions.
The same representative added that outbreaks in nursing homes are typically due to outbreaks in the surrounding community and are accidentally brought into the facility by staff, rather than residents.
Cohen, however, warns that nursing home residents don’t have a choice as to whether or not their complex turns into an isolation center, adding she believes these centers could pose a serious risk.
“No one has given me any information that makes me feel confident that [they’re] not,” she said.
Concerns over Florida nursing home COVID-19 'isolation centers'
https://cbs12.com/news/local/concerns-over-florida-nursing-home-covid-19-isolation-centers
The State of Florida has 23 COVID-19 isolation centers at various nursing homes and long-term care facilities.
There are five of those centers housed in facilities between Palm Beach County and the Treasure Coast, according to a map from the Agency for Health Care Administration (AHCA).
In some facilities, this lesser known and little understood practice houses COVID-19 positive patients in the same complex as healthy, oftentimes older residents. The COVID-19 patients are typically kept in a separate wing or building from healthy residents and often have a dedicated staff specifically working in the isolation center.
But family members of some residents worry not enough is being done to keep their loved ones safe.
“There are no requirements in terms of how structures need to be sealed off. There are no requirements as to how air flow needs to flow,” said Danielle Cohen, whose grandfather lives in a Broward County long-term care facility now using a portion of their space as an isolation center.
The facilities are created through an agreement between the State of Florida and individual long term care companies, in which the company agrees to house COVID-19 positive patients who are usually discharged from a hospital but still require care. State officials have said isolation centers play an important role in ensuring sick people do not return to their regular nursing homes and in keeping hospital beds available.
Cohen asked staff at her grandfather’s facility and officials with AHCA about the exact requirements that nursing homes have to adhere to when serving as a long term care facility and what specific plans are in place to keep healthy residents from getting sick.
“It's been a mind numbing experience to learn all these lax policies and why I’ve taken it upon myself to get answers,” Cohen said. “There’s no oversight required prior to these long term care facilities opening the isolation wings.”
CBS12 News reached out to ACHA and asked what specific requirements long term care facilities have to meet and maintain to serve as isolation centers, but have not heard back yet.
A representative with the Florida Health Care Association, which represents a number of long term care facilities, said that all facilities follow CDC guidelines to prevent COVID-19 spread and have frequent, rapid testing from the state and federal government. She also added that facilities undergo an inspection from the state before they're approved as an isolation center.
Additionally, the Florida Health Care Association provided numerous links and presentations that were made available to nursing homes from the CDC, Florida Surgeon General Scott Rivkees, and industry groups that outline how nursing homes should create and maintain isolation centers. However, it’s unclear which of the policies are mandates and which are suggestions.
The same representative added that outbreaks in nursing homes are typically due to outbreaks in the surrounding community and are accidentally brought into the facility by staff, rather than residents.
Cohen, however, warns that nursing home residents don’t have a choice as to whether or not their complex turns into an isolation center, adding she believes these centers could pose a serious risk.
“No one has given me any information that makes me feel confident that [they’re] not,” she said.
Another day with 200+ deaths due to Covid in Florida. Canada, with a population 40% larger then Florida, had 4 deaths today. Not an outlier this has been going in more then a month now, most of which Canada has been level 3 open.
An extra 200 deaths a day is 6000 in a month. Let's be nice and low ball it at 4000. Are 4000 lives a month not worth a community effort to wear masks and practice safe distancing in public ? Or the public needs their beach time, their brunch time, and most of all their freedom to act like absolute assholes concerning the virus whenever they want to ? Because that is certainly what appears to be happening.
An extra 200 deaths a day is 6000 in a month. Let's be nice and low ball it at 4000. Are 4000 lives a month not worth a community effort to wear masks and practice safe distancing in public ? Or the public needs their beach time, their brunch time, and most of all their freedom to act like absolute assholes concerning the virus whenever they want to ? Because that is certainly what appears to be happening.
Virus running it's course and rapidly declining. Looks normal in my view.
DeSantis - Let's be sure all the kids get infected
DeSantis says Florida schools with coronavirus cases shouldn’t be quick to shut down again
https://www.heraldtribune.com/story...ns-increased-6-148-friday-563-315/3374892001/
Continuing his push to reopen schools during an event in Sarasota on Friday, Gov. Ron DeSantis emphasized the mental health ramifications of keeping children at home and said that schools should not be quick to shut down again if they have a coronavirus infection.
Schools in other states have opened and then quickly closed again because of coronavirus outbreaks among students, raising the question of how Florida districts will deal with cases of infected students and teachers. Some Florida school districts began classroom instruction this week, while many other districts are reopening over the next two weeks.
DeSantis said he expects school districts to take each outbreak on a “case by case basis” and endorsed a more “surgical approach” that does not lead to automatic school closures.
“I’ve been able to talk to a number of superintendents who have already started this week, and I think they’re approaching it very smartly,” DeSantis said after a roundtable discussion on mental health issues at Marie Selby Botanical Gardens. “Somebody is on a school bus and they’re ill, then you send them home, and if parents have a child that’s ill, then you keep them home.”
DeSantis added that: “I think doing a more surgical approach like that makes much more sense than just if one person’s sick you shut down the whole school. I don’t think that’s how a lot of these districts are going to approach it; I think it’ll be on a case-by-case basis.”
The issue of whether schools are likely to close if they have a coronavirus case is important for parents and teachers who would have to be prepared to do distance learning.
The prevalence of the coronavirus in Florida makes school outbreaks all but certain.
Florida health officials reported another 6,148 coronavirus infections Friday and 228 more COVID-19 deaths among state residents. The state continues to be a global virus hotspot, although the number of new infections and COVID-19 patients in the hospital have started to trend down statewide as well as in Sarasota and Manatee counties.
DeSantis focused on those positive trends Friday, and also on the harm that students could suffer if they are kept out of school.
The roundtable included child welfare experts who said the coronavirus has heightened concerns about child abuse and mental health problems among children.
Chad Poppell, the secretary of the Florida Department of Children and Families, said teachers play a key role in reporting suspected child abuse cases. Calls to the state’s child abuse hotline always drop over the summer when children are out of school, he noted.
There are concerns that keeping children out of school will lead to abuse cases going unreported.
“We’ve been going for five-plus months; it is horrible to think about a child stuck in a (abuse) situation” for that long, Poppell said.
Bringing children back to school while the pandemic is still raging in Florida also presents health risks to families and school employees, though.
Public health officials worry that schools will help spread the virus, leading to more illness and deaths.
DeSantis said he believes schools can reopen safely.
“With proper precautions, people doing the basic things with an eye toward mitigation, I have no doubt they can create a safe environment,” DeSantis said.
DeSantis says Florida schools with coronavirus cases shouldn’t be quick to shut down again
https://www.heraldtribune.com/story...ns-increased-6-148-friday-563-315/3374892001/
Continuing his push to reopen schools during an event in Sarasota on Friday, Gov. Ron DeSantis emphasized the mental health ramifications of keeping children at home and said that schools should not be quick to shut down again if they have a coronavirus infection.
Schools in other states have opened and then quickly closed again because of coronavirus outbreaks among students, raising the question of how Florida districts will deal with cases of infected students and teachers. Some Florida school districts began classroom instruction this week, while many other districts are reopening over the next two weeks.
DeSantis said he expects school districts to take each outbreak on a “case by case basis” and endorsed a more “surgical approach” that does not lead to automatic school closures.
“I’ve been able to talk to a number of superintendents who have already started this week, and I think they’re approaching it very smartly,” DeSantis said after a roundtable discussion on mental health issues at Marie Selby Botanical Gardens. “Somebody is on a school bus and they’re ill, then you send them home, and if parents have a child that’s ill, then you keep them home.”
DeSantis added that: “I think doing a more surgical approach like that makes much more sense than just if one person’s sick you shut down the whole school. I don’t think that’s how a lot of these districts are going to approach it; I think it’ll be on a case-by-case basis.”
The issue of whether schools are likely to close if they have a coronavirus case is important for parents and teachers who would have to be prepared to do distance learning.
The prevalence of the coronavirus in Florida makes school outbreaks all but certain.
Florida health officials reported another 6,148 coronavirus infections Friday and 228 more COVID-19 deaths among state residents. The state continues to be a global virus hotspot, although the number of new infections and COVID-19 patients in the hospital have started to trend down statewide as well as in Sarasota and Manatee counties.
DeSantis focused on those positive trends Friday, and also on the harm that students could suffer if they are kept out of school.
The roundtable included child welfare experts who said the coronavirus has heightened concerns about child abuse and mental health problems among children.
Chad Poppell, the secretary of the Florida Department of Children and Families, said teachers play a key role in reporting suspected child abuse cases. Calls to the state’s child abuse hotline always drop over the summer when children are out of school, he noted.
There are concerns that keeping children out of school will lead to abuse cases going unreported.
“We’ve been going for five-plus months; it is horrible to think about a child stuck in a (abuse) situation” for that long, Poppell said.
Bringing children back to school while the pandemic is still raging in Florida also presents health risks to families and school employees, though.
Public health officials worry that schools will help spread the virus, leading to more illness and deaths.
DeSantis said he believes schools can reopen safely.
“With proper precautions, people doing the basic things with an eye toward mitigation, I have no doubt they can create a safe environment,” DeSantis said.
I think DeSantis has to wake up and realize it hardly is ever the case that in a school large like most public schools just 1 kid will get it. He has proof of that in Georgia. One kid tests positive a week or two after he was spreading it around in a crowded school with no social distancing or strict adherence to CDC guidelines.
Corona cases are like roaches. If you see one there are usually hundreds more hiding below the surface.
Corona cases are like roaches. If you see one there are usually hundreds more hiding below the surface.
You've been deeply delusional on anything concerning the virus for the entire year. 200+ deaths a day means 6000 deaths in a month. You can pretend all you want that it doesn't matter and the trend is way down. That's just you being incredibly stupid. You have no bearing or influence on that reality, you are just some guy on the internet that is forever wrong about the virus.