DeSantis for the win

[Buy1Sell2]

So much winning...

Ron DeSantis admits GOP put up "pointless roadblocks" so fewer people would sign up for unemployment
Florida's Republican Governor Ron DeSantis confirms the state's unemployment system was broken by design
https://www.salon.com/2020/08/05/ro...eople-would-sign-up-for-unemployment_partner/

In an interview with CBS4 Miami's Jim DeFede, Gov. Ron DeSantis (R-FL) admitted that Florida Republicans, led by his predecessor, deliberately crippled the state's unemployment system so that fewer out-of-work people would apply for benefits.

"Do you believe that the system was in part put together the way it was to discourage people from being able to collect unemployment?" asked DeFede.

"I think that was the animating philosophy," said DeSantis. "I mean having studied how it was internally constructed, I think the goal was for whoever designed, it was, 'Let's put as many kind of pointless roadblocks along the way, so people just say, oh, the hell with it, I'm not going to do that.' And, you know, for me, let's decide on what the benefit is and let's get it out as efficiently as possible. You know, we shouldn't necessarily do these roadblocks to do it. So we have cleared a lot of those."

When DeFede pointed out to him the current system was designed by former Gov. Rick Scott, now a senator and ally of DeSantis, he replied, "I'm not sure if it was his, but I think definitely in terms of how it was internally constructed, you know. It was definitely done in a way to lead to the least number of claims being paid out."

For months, Florida Republicans have faced allegations that the unemployment system was broken by design. It has been a massive obstacle as the coronavirus pandemic has shuttered businesses and left millions out of work and reliant on unemployment insurance.

You are a Liar----

"You know, we shouldn't necessarily do these roadblocks to do it. So we have cleared a lot of those."

 

[kingjelly]

You are a Liar----

"You know, we shouldn't necessarily do these roadblocks to do it. So we have cleared a lot of those."

If Rick Scott designed it, then it was a GOP governor who made it difficult, not sure how that's a lie. It's good that DeSantis is trying to undo it.

 

[Tsing Tao]

If Rick Scott designed it, then it was a GOP governor who made it difficult, not sure how that's a lie. It's good that DeSantis is trying to undo it.

I'd like to see the backup that Scott designed it. I'm not saying he did or didn't. But I don't simply take people's words for things anymore in this day and age.

 

[gwb-trading]

More data is always better. There's no argument I could possibly make (or want to make) that could say otherwise. The question is why some data is held back and other data isn't. You seem to imply there is a nefarious plan to withhold it. I keep saying it is either a good reason or there is incompetence.

You can't seem to prove the nefarious angle, though. That's rather unsurprising.

Can you explain why nearly all the other states share this data with medical researchers and hospital/medical systems? After all hospitals submit all this data. Why won’t Florida allow them to see a compilation of the data?

Other states do not have complaints from doctors and medical systems about not being able to see the data they submit.

This particular situation in Florida regarding data is not related to systemic inconsistencies; it is a direct state government decision made to deliberately not share this data with hospitals and medical researchers.

 

[Tsing Tao]

Can you explain why nearly all the other states share this data with medical researchers and hospital/medical systems? After all hospitals submit all this data. Why won’t Florida allow them to see a compilation of the data?

Other states do not have complaints from doctors and medical systems about not being able to see the data they submit.

This particular situation in Florida regarding data is not related to systemic inconsistencies; it is a direct state government decision made to deliberately not share this data with hospitals and medical researchers.

You'd have to show me "all the other states" do share all this data and then I'd agree Florida was an anomaly. Please be specific on which data you mean so we don't have any confusions on what we are discussing.

 

[gwb-trading]

You'd have to show me "all the other states" do share all this data and then I'd agree Florida was an anomaly. Please be specific on which data you mean so we don't have any confusions on what we are discussing.

Show me a single other state which is not sharing this data with doctors? Show me a single other state where doctors and hospitals are complaining about the state not sharing hospitalization data?

At this point it should be obvious there are no complaints in other states and doctors have access to this data.

 

[Tsing Tao]

Show me a single other state which is not sharing this data with doctors? Show me a single other state where doctors and hospitals are complaining about the state not sharing hospitalization data?

At this point it should be obvious there are no complaints in other states and doctors have access to this data.

So now I have to go find another state that is sharing ...which data (you aren't even specifying which data to investigate)? What specific data? to support your claim that "nearly all other states are sharing this data"?

Sorry, I provide proof for my assertions, you for yours.

 

[El OchoCinco]

First, politicians make policy. We don't have doctors making laws for a reason, which we can go into if you would like.

Second, is there empirical evidence showing someone who had Covid and recovered, but tested positive weeks later is contagious? If so, why is the CDC recommending policy that goes against this?

Aren't the CDC the equivalent of doctors for the purposes of this argument? Surely they can make medical decisions, no?

They are making policy based 100% on medical info that they are ignoring.

Gov. Ron DeSantis has suggested that employees who test positive for the coronavirus should be evaluated using a “symptom-based approach” to determine their return to work.

Why is DeSantis telling people that if you test positive then go to work unless you have symptoms.

Don't give me the policy versus medicine argument because this "policy" seems contradictory to all medicine and he should NOT be making such a policy.

If you test positive, you should stay home in quarantine for 14 days and come back when you have a clean test again. This has been the approach in many other areas and even worked well in the NBA which their bubble would be comparable to a company inviting its employees back.

Pretty basic and will help stop the spread from positive tested fucktards going out in public.

Why would any politician take the lead to tell positive people to simply ignore it unless they have symptoms?

 

[Nine_Ender]

They are making policy based 100% on medical info that they are ignoring.

Gov. Ron DeSantis has suggested that employees who test positive for the coronavirus should be evaluated using a “symptom-based approach” to determine their return to work.

Why is DeSantis telling people that if you test positive then go to work unless you have symptoms.

Don't give me the policy versus medicine argument because this "policy" seems contradictory to all medicine and he should NOT be making such a policy.

If you test positive, you should stay home in quarantine for 14 days and come back when you have a clean test again. This has been the approach in many other areas and even worked well in the NBA which their bubble would be comparable to a company inviting its employees back.

Pretty basic and will help stop the spread from positive tested fucktards going out in public.

Why would any politician take the lead to tell positive people to simply ignore it unless they have symptoms?

I'm unconvinced yet that the people of Florida and some other states take this seriously enough to get through the next few months without an even bigger crisis. Perhaps sending the kids off to school will be the catalyst. No matter how off in dreamland some people can be about such issues if their kids start getting sick or worse it'll change some minds and behaviors. Might even create some stigma socially for those who refuse to take safety precautions.

 

[Buy1Sell2]

I'm unconvinced yet that the people of Florida and some other states take this seriously enough to get through the next few months without an even bigger crisis.

I suspect that Florida is getting much closer to herd immunity than folks realize.