DeSantis for the win

This was not like stock market hindsight. There is not public science with which to forecast the stock market with scientific accuracy; so everyone properly gets to have their opinion as to where it's going.

But there are epidemiological mathematical models to forecast infection trends and spreads with scientific accuracy.

On what basis were you in his camp when this started? What science were you using to make that decision? Or maybe the question should be, what news network were you unconditionally believing? What on Earth made you believe, "He's right, Fauci is wrong."

Exactly. That's why this country is, where it is.

If a news network can divide this country, over wearing simple face masks, during a pandemic, despite the science ... yeah .... we're fucked.

We need to fix the education system in the US.

Proper education would improve critical thinking and help with problems in multiple areas:

Ignoring science.
Not understanding science.
Police using excessive force.
Being served the wrong order in the fast food drive-thru.
The other problems.

lol. You're right, what can I say.
 
This was not like stock market hindsight. There is not public science with which to forecast the stock market with scientific accuracy; so everyone properly gets to have their opinion as to where it's going.

But there are epidemiological mathematical models to forecast infection trends and spreads with scientific accuracy.

On what basis were you in his camp when this started? What science were you using to make that decision? Or maybe the question should be, what news network were you unconditionally believing? What on Earth made you believe, "He's right, Fauci is wrong."

Exactly. That's why this country is, where it is.

If a news network can divide this country, over wearing simple face masks, during a pandemic, despite the science ... yeah .... we're fucked.

We need to fix the education system in the US.

Proper education would improve critical thinking and help with problems in multiple areas:

Ignoring science.
Not understanding science.
Police using excessive force.
Being served the wrong order in the fast food drive-thru.
The other problems.

If you don’t read you’ll believe anything that agrees with your biases.
 
If you don’t read you’ll believe anything that agrees with your biases.

Absolutely true. Additionally:

It's more than just reading. You can 'read' bullshit too on sites like breitbart etc.

Even without reading, and only looking at Fox news, a viewer could still just simply think critically about what they're being told to believe.

Which speaks to your point, rather than spend time doing all that critical thinking--assuming they are able to think critically, it's easier just to find a friend, or a news network, or a website, that supports your bias, damn the facts.
 
Knowing the age of those hospitalized would be really helpful. 200+ is getting into big numbers.

Is Florida still not counting deaths of people who claim residency in another state?

I'm finding it incredible that at 190+ deaths two days in a row some are still trying to clarify how bad it is. This is really, really bad. It takes 4 weeks to turn things around; not sure when the tide turned in Florida or has it even turned yet ?
 
Absolutely true. Additionally:

It's more than just reading. You can 'read' bullshit too on sites like breitbart etc.

Even without reading, and only looking at Fox news, a viewer could still just simply think critically about what they're being told to believe.

Which speaks to your point, rather than spend time doing all that critical thinking--assuming they are able to think critically, it's easier just to find a friend, or a news network, or a website, that supports your bias, damn the facts.

Right. Just because you’re literate doesn’t mean you can read at a level high enough to gain understanding.
 
Let's take a walk back in time to May 11th...

DeSantis dismisses forecast of 5,440 Florida COVID-19 deaths by August as ‘conjecture’
https://www.thecentersquare.com/flo...cle_007fedac-93c0-11ea-a470-b3301597b686.html

Gov. Ron DeSantis on Monday dismissed updated projections from the Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation (IHME) that estimate COVID-19 will kill 5,440 Floridians by Aug. 4, with the disease’s daily death toll peaking between June 8-10.

“Has (IHME’s) model been accurate so far? Have any of the models been accurate so far?” DeSantis asked during a Fort Myers news conference. “We need to go based on facts and evidence and not based on conjecture.”

Let's fast forward to today when Florida death toll is at 6332 residents. It's not even August 4th yet.
 
I'm finding it incredible that at 190+ deaths two days in a row some are still trying to clarify how bad it is. This is really, really bad. It takes 4 weeks to turn things around; not sure when the tide turned in Florida or has it even turned yet ?

We’ll see. Florida is a big, rich state that has the advantage of having watched other states deal with Covid. We’ve learned a lot since NY & NJ got hit so hard. Florida now knows where the deaths mostly occur, there’s therapies and proven mitigation practices. Now if they cannot use this information effectively then that speaks to their government. But the truth is they should have never gotten themselves this deep into Covid anyway.
 
We’ll see. Florida is a big, rich state that has the advantage of having watched other states deal with Covid. We’ve learned a lot since NY & NJ got hit so hard. Florida now knows where the deaths mostly occur, there’s therapies and proven mitigation practices. Now if they cannot use this information effectively then that speaks to their government. But the truth is they should have never gotten themselves this deep into Covid anyway.

Florida had that advantage 3 months ago, and squandered it for whatever reason I don't really care who is at fault but certainly the public bears some responsibility. There are reports from one guy who moved from Toronto back to his family in Florida at some point and the safety precautions were night and day. For example, he said there tons of mask less people in grocery stores, little league baseball was being played, and people lined up for various things were not spaced at all.
 
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