In defense of Americans, most Americans are reasonable. Don’t forget Donald Trump actually lost the popular vote. America is a place where the majority is currently ruled by the minority.
DeSantis for the win
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In defense of Americans, most Americans are reasonable. Don’t forget Donald Trump actually lost the popular vote. America is a place where the majority is currently ruled by the minority.
You mean how the left rules in education, Hollywood, news media?
Right wing heroine DeSantis blames his lack in response to the virus on the media , saying he stopped covering the topic in May because they didn't ask him about it.
The "left" is an imaginary enemy you are obsessed about.
Fox News and right wing tabloid webpages rule the media.
I don’t know how on one hand right wingers say look at the ratings then on the other hand claim the left has undue influence over the media.
How do you think we ended up with the worst Covid spread in the world? What about the corruption at the Justice Department going unaccounted for? Climate change denial. On and on. It’s because right wing disinformation news pumps garbage into people for a political agenda.
You’re a muppet.
I think you guys did what worked for you and it'll work out. One-size-fits-all policy doesn't work - not even among different states. No one is "OK" with deaths, but deaths are a part of life. I've posted this chart before, but this is the most recent:
It shows total deaths in the state of Florida - all causes. Where there is a "+" indicated, the total deaths are above the forecasted deaths from the CDC (this is from the CDC's website). The forecast is based on trend and this chart is back to Jan 1 2017 with every bar a week of deaths.
What you see, quite clearly, is that we had a spike in the 2017/18 flu season where deaths were higher than expected, most likely due to the flu season that year being particularly bad. And we didn't lock down, there were no mask mandates. We just went through life as we always do. This time around, the deaths are about the same level, actually a tad lower. And we've done so much to try to stem the tide. If Florida is doing such a bad job, wouldn't the overall deaths be way above the expected level? If things were so bad here, wouldn't we see massive spikes? We're not. It's not a narrative, Nine Ender. Its just the data. You tell me what it says to you.
Every day of our lives, we examine risk and make a call on how to live. We get into a car every day to go to work or to school, aware that we could die in a car accident. But the statistical probability of dying in a car is so low, and the convenience factor of the car so high, that we accept the trade off. Same with flying in a plane. Same with doing many things during our lives. We eat junk food, knowing that it isn't good for our body. We drink alcohol knowing the effect it can have on us. But again, we outweigh the risk with quality of life.
It should be no different here. The statistical probability of dying from Covid is quite low for most folks. But something has made us become so afraid that we have sacrificed quality of life and what makes us free over a worry that this will take us down.
Did you even listen to that video you posted before you posted what you did? DeSantis says that he wasn't asked about the virus in that clip (which was, of course taken out of context). The full point he made (outside of the soundbyte CNN decided to share) was that the focus in May was all about the protests and never really concern about the trend of cases, deaths or the overall data that was coming out of Florida. Why? Because it wasn't bad, and they didn't want to provide any proof that Florida might be on the right track. It is only when the data gets bad that everyone rushes to say "haha! Told you!"
The questions CNN is claiming were about the virus, in the order they were presented:
"How is the DoE addressing the thousands of applicants that have applied for benefits but were deemed ineligible?" - not about the virus at all
"What company has been used in regards to antibody testing and are you concerned the tests are 90% accurate?" Virus related but nothing to do with the actual case counts, deaths or the trend in Florida.
"Is there anything else you think you can do to protect nursing homes?" Virus related, but nothing to do with the case counts.
"What about the outbreaks in prisons?" Ok, this is a true question about the current virus situation, data related and something the governor should have considered.
"Do you think it is safe to lump Palm beach county with Miami Dade (in terms of restrictions)?" Another true question DeSantis should have recalled.
"The rejection of unemployment claims, the Florida department of employment is advising people to reapply...etc" Nothing about the virus at all.
"Question on modeling - have you been paying attention to the University of Washington model?" CNN shows DeSantis reply to this and he asks "has that been accurate so far? Has any of it been remotely accurate?" No, it has not. But you could make an argument that this was a question as well.
"Should parents have kids get ready for summer camps?" LOL
"I've heard from literally 100s of people that say their unemployment claims are still pending" - yeah, not virus at all.
Those were the examples CNN used. CNN is a bunch of hucksters. You, Spike, are a huckster.
This is my nomination for stupid post of the week. Yeah, the right wing controls all the media.
Sure.
A good chart posted showing the difference between the dates deaths are reported and when they actually occurred, and the issue in some of this reporting. For example, the Covid Tracking Project showed 2,296 people died in the United States as of the latest week ending July 18. Unfortunately, the date these people died is a bit more important. As you can see, many of these people actually died in June, May and even as far back as April and March. So going with "2,296 people died this week!" is untrue, but being picked up by media outlets everywhere.
Death counts will continue to rise as tallies update past dates, but there is a significant lag in the data coming from the CDC (which the Covid Tracking Project uses).
Death counts will continue to rise as tallies update past dates, but there is a significant lag in the data coming from the CDC (which the Covid Tracking Project uses).