Yeah, I know there are automated ways to do it. But you still have to read them all to see which ones you want to spam the forum with.
DeSantis for the win
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Yeah, I know there are automated ways to do it. But you still have to read them all to see which ones you want to spam the forum with.
From more investigation on the "withholding specific location data". It is unlikely DeSantis had anything to do with this.
“I was just informed that effective immediately that DOH will no longer be providing addresses to flag,” wrote CAD Specialist Laura Jewell in an email to the sheriff and other office staff. “They advised that due to the amount of time it is consuming and the fact that there is such a large community spread that first responders should be utilizing PPE anytime they are in contact with the public.”
In a phone interview Wednesday morning, Chitwood said Jewell has been the department’s point of contact for the health department throughout the crisis.
Not everyone believes the sheriff should be sharing the number of addresses.
“I didn’t see a real value in sharing the number (of addresses),” said Volusia County Chair Ed Kelley in a phone call Wednesday regarding Chitwood’s dispensation of the numbers to the public. Kelley was Chitwood’s most vocal opponent when the sheriff began sharing the numbers on social media.
But Kelley said he does believe the information has value for public safety officers.
“For first responders making calls, that was definitely a benefit and the way it should have been used,” said Kelley. “I didn’t think it was necessarily important to let the public know things that we didn’t necessarily have access to as a council directly.”
In a phone interview Wednesday morning, Chitwood said Jewell has been the department’s point of contact for the health department throughout the crisis.
Not everyone believes the sheriff should be sharing the number of addresses.
“I didn’t see a real value in sharing the number (of addresses),” said Volusia County Chair Ed Kelley in a phone call Wednesday regarding Chitwood’s dispensation of the numbers to the public. Kelley was Chitwood’s most vocal opponent when the sheriff began sharing the numbers on social media.
But Kelley said he does believe the information has value for public safety officers.
“For first responders making calls, that was definitely a benefit and the way it should have been used,” said Kelley. “I didn’t think it was necessarily important to let the public know things that we didn’t necessarily have access to as a council directly.”
Still having problems with articles providing statistics, data, and facts, eh?
Guess you should stick with your blind allegiance to your state governor,
Ok, I tried to engage you in a fair manner and here you go again. Bye.
Anyone who wants to actually discuss Florida and the situation here without trying to provoke a flame war constantly, I'd be happy to engage.
Douchebags not welcome.
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Here is the latest forecast outcome 30 days out...This number dropped to 14k from 16k a few days ago, which was a surprise given the high day we had yesterday. Given the deaths are at 4,009 as of today, this would imply a death rate of 333 a day from this point forward. Since yesterdays death count reported was 119, this would indicate the forecast is for MUCH more deaths in the next 30 days or there would have to be a significant adjustment downward.
As a reference, here was the forecast on July 1, 9 days ago...future forecast numbers continue to post "in 30 days", so I suppose they can just be wrong all the time since they don't post revisions.
To reach the July 1 forecast, we would have to have 571 deaths per day until Aug 1. That would imply that each day after this one would be at a rate 5 times higher than the highest ever posted, and would require really bad days to come to fruition in the near future. I guess this is possible, but it wouldn't be likely.
As a reference, here was the forecast on July 1, 9 days ago...future forecast numbers continue to post "in 30 days", so I suppose they can just be wrong all the time since they don't post revisions.
To reach the July 1 forecast, we would have to have 571 deaths per day until Aug 1. That would imply that each day after this one would be at a rate 5 times higher than the highest ever posted, and would require really bad days to come to fruition in the near future. I guess this is possible, but it wouldn't be likely.
Not referring to you.
My apologies for misunderstanding.
I'm going to post some charts on total death aggregate data from the CDC based on a thread I've been following on Twitter. This information is available on the CDC's website, and while not all Florida related, it is relevant for a discussion on deaths during the crisis in Florida.
Feel free to comment. Leave your stupid "DeSantis caused people to die" commentary at the door, please.
First, some technical background on the charts:
NEW JERSEY - which went into hyper lockdown mode. A significant spike into excess deaths.
NY data is split by NYC and NY State. No idea why.
NY City
NY STATE ex City
California slightly higher than the 2017 flu.
Texas high, but again, nothing like the 2017 FLU.
Chart from EL Gato Malo (twitter: @boriquagato) showing that stats with 19% of the population represented 55% of the total deaths and that policy was designed around these results for the rest of the country. If NY and NJ were their own countries, they would rank 1 and 2 for the worst places on earth in terms of deaths per 1M pop (h/t @boriquagato)
Feel free to comment. Leave your stupid "DeSantis caused people to die" commentary at the door, please.
First, some technical background on the charts:
Estimates of excess deaths can provide information about the burden of mortality potentially related to the COVID-19 pandemic, including deaths that are directly or indirectly attributed to COVID-19. Excess deaths are typically defined as the difference between the observed numbers of deaths in specific time periods and expected numbers of deaths in the same time periods. This visualization provides weekly estimates of excess deaths by the jurisdiction in which the death occurred. Weekly counts of deaths are compared with historical trends to determine whether the number of deaths is significantly higher than expected.
FLORIDA - the incursion into "excess" deaths was quite small, and wasn't even as bad as the 2017 flu season. Remember that this is deaths from all cause, so as non-covid deaths decline, it acts as a counter to the covid incursion of deaths, as I understand it.
NEW JERSEY - which went into hyper lockdown mode. A significant spike into excess deaths.
NY data is split by NYC and NY State. No idea why.
NY City
NY STATE ex City
California slightly higher than the 2017 flu.
Texas high, but again, nothing like the 2017 FLU.
Chart from EL Gato Malo (twitter: @boriquagato) showing that stats with 19% of the population represented 55% of the total deaths and that policy was designed around these results for the rest of the country. If NY and NJ were their own countries, they would rank 1 and 2 for the worst places on earth in terms of deaths per 1M pop (h/t @boriquagato)
I'm going to post some charts on total death aggregate data from the CDC based on a thread I've been following on Twitter. This information is available on the CDC's website, and while not all Florida related, it is relevant for a discussion on deaths during the crisis in Florida.
Feel free to comment. Leave your stupid "DeSantis caused people to die" commentary at the door, please.
First, some technical background on the charts:
Estimates of excess deaths can provide information about the burden of mortality potentially related to the COVID-19 pandemic, including deaths that are directly or indirectly attributed to COVID-19. Excess deaths are typically defined as the difference between the observed numbers of deaths in specific time periods and expected numbers of deaths in the same time periods. This visualization provides weekly estimates of excess deaths by the jurisdiction in which the death occurred. Weekly counts of deaths are compared with historical trends to determine whether the number of deaths is significantly higher than expected.FLORIDA - the incursion into "excess" deaths was quite small, and wasn't even as bad as the 2017 flu season. Remember that this is deaths from all cause, so as non-covid deaths decline, it acts as a counter to the covid incursion of deaths, as I understand it.
NEW JERSEY - which went into hyper lockdown mode. A significant spike into excess deaths.
NY data is split by NYC and NY State. No idea why.
NY City
NY STATE ex City
California slightly higher than the 2017 flu.
Texas high, but again, nothing like the 2017 FLU.
Chart from EL Gato Malo (twitter: @boriquagato) showing that stats with 19% of the population represented 55% of the total deaths and that policy was designed around these results for the rest of the country. If NY and NJ were their own countries, they would rank 1 and 2 for the worst places on earth in terms of deaths per 1M pop (h/t @boriquagato)
I will simply ask you for the url that is the source from your charts above.
I'm soooo tempted to tell you to go find it, but alas, I'll be good.
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/excess_deaths.htm
You will have to compile the data, but it is available for download and to chart. You can download it here.
https://data.cdc.gov/NCHS/Provisional-COVID-19-Death-Counts-by-Week-Ending-D/r8kw-7aab