Yesterday I was hanging out at the International Plaza Mall in Tampa. I noticed that all the trash cans in the food court were stamped with the Tampa Bay Times logo. Which is quite appropriate since @Tsing Tao considers the factual articles about DeSantis in his hometown paper to be nothing more than trash.
DeSantis for the win
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You're right! It is appropriate as the narrative based (not factual) articles are horseshit. Much like most of your belief system. And the Times pays for their name on the trash cans - even more ironic. Sun Sentinel (another one of the rags you claim is "truthful" because of its Anti Desanti tirades, said this back in the 2009 Swine Flu:
Go Florida!
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Its almost like some of us were right when we said that the virus was seasonal.Worst governor ever sees record Republicans in Florida! GWB_NPC Weeps in Despair!
Florida turns red: DeSantis touts record as registered Republicans outnumber Democrats for the first time
There are now more registered Republican voters than Democrats in Florida for the first time in the Sunshine State's history.
"When I got elected governor we had 280,000 more registered Democrats than Republicans in the state of Florida," Gov. Ron DeSantis told a crowd at the National Conference of State Legislatures on Friday. "Today, and it will probably be fully publicized very soon, for the first time in the history of Florida we have overtaken Democrats. There are more registered Republicans in Florida than Democrats."
The crowd applauded Gov. DeSantis, who then joked that Republicans would have won the tightly contested New Jersey gubernatorial race if the state’s Republicans hadn’t moved to Florida.
DeSantis explained that Republicans are fleeing to Florida to escape coronavirus restrictions, lawlessness, crime, and other factors.
DeSantis also explained that Democrats have not governed well in the parts of the country they control.
"Once these areas go deep blue they get destroyed," DeSantis said. "How many places that are deep blue are well governed in this country? Can you name me some?"
"Tell me where you can find this success story of ‘woke progressivism’ imposed on a people," the governor added. "I don’t see it."
In 2008, registered Democrats outnumbered Republicans by almost 700,000 voters but that gap has narrowed every year since 2012, according to Miami Herald. This September, Democrats had a lead of only 24,000 voters.
FILE - Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis speaks at the opening of a monoclonal antibody site Wednesday, Aug. 18, 2021, in Pembroke Pines, Fla. (AP Photo/Marta Lavandier) (AP Photo/Marta Lavandier)
"The level of enthusiasm in support of registering Republicans is unprecedented, and this is a true milestone moment in Florida’s history," the Republican Party of Florida’s executive director, Helen Aguirre Ferré, said.
Florida turns red: DeSantis touts record as registered Republicans outnumber Democrats for the first time
There are now more registered Republican voters than Democrats in Florida for the first time in the Sunshine State's history.
"When I got elected governor we had 280,000 more registered Democrats than Republicans in the state of Florida," Gov. Ron DeSantis told a crowd at the National Conference of State Legislatures on Friday. "Today, and it will probably be fully publicized very soon, for the first time in the history of Florida we have overtaken Democrats. There are more registered Republicans in Florida than Democrats."
The crowd applauded Gov. DeSantis, who then joked that Republicans would have won the tightly contested New Jersey gubernatorial race if the state’s Republicans hadn’t moved to Florida.
DeSantis explained that Republicans are fleeing to Florida to escape coronavirus restrictions, lawlessness, crime, and other factors.
DeSantis also explained that Democrats have not governed well in the parts of the country they control.
"Once these areas go deep blue they get destroyed," DeSantis said. "How many places that are deep blue are well governed in this country? Can you name me some?"
"Tell me where you can find this success story of ‘woke progressivism’ imposed on a people," the governor added. "I don’t see it."
In 2008, registered Democrats outnumbered Republicans by almost 700,000 voters but that gap has narrowed every year since 2012, according to Miami Herald. This September, Democrats had a lead of only 24,000 voters.
FILE - Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis speaks at the opening of a monoclonal antibody site Wednesday, Aug. 18, 2021, in Pembroke Pines, Fla. (AP Photo/Marta Lavandier) (AP Photo/Marta Lavandier)
"The level of enthusiasm in support of registering Republicans is unprecedented, and this is a true milestone moment in Florida’s history," the Republican Party of Florida’s executive director, Helen Aguirre Ferré, said.
Weeping and gnashing of teeth by all the Anti DeSanti folks. Democrats decide to consider Florida "unwinable".
No million-dollar checks: Democratic governors may sit out Florida
TALLAHASSEE — The Democratic Governors Association has no plans to give significant financial help to Florida Democrats as they seek to unseat Gov. Ron DeSantis in 2022, a major setback that will make it harder for challengers to take on the popular Republican.
The DGA, which spent more than $15 million in Florida over the past two gubernatorial election cycles, is starting to deprioritize the state and is expected to have a much smaller footprint during the midterms, said two Florida Democratic consultants who have been in contact with the DGA.
It’s a move driven, in part, by the DGA’s need to use its limited resources to protect incumbent governors elsewhere, as well as the growing sense that Democrats can’t win statewide elections in Florida, these people said, speaking on condition of anonymity to characterize the private discussions.
The decision to withhold resources in Florida deals a blow to Democrats eager to knock off DeSantis, a nationally ascendant Republican with future White House aspirations. It also indicates that Florida is losing its position as the largest swing state, with some national groups deciding that, at least for now, it’s center-right terrain.
The perception that DeSantis is unbeatable has left national Democratic groups like the DGA to weigh whether they should spend resources in Florida, a hugely expensive state with 10 media markets, or use that cash to help incumbents in cheaper states.
“I do think, and I can’t stress this enough, the DGA is playing mostly defense this year, and that’s a monumental change,” said Jonathan Ducote, a veteran Democratic consultant who has worked with the group. “When I think about Florida statewide elections, the number one thing you have to ask yourself is do you have the money to communicate in a really expensive state?"
One of the people who has spoken with the DGA said that DeSantis’ near universal support from the GOP base and $50 million war chest — as well the organization’s focus on incumbents — means Florida is likely to see far less money than past election cycles. There was no dollar figure immediately available.
A second person working with the DGA, who confirmed that the organization is limiting its financial help to Florida Democrats, said he’d be amazed if the DGA invested heavily in the state.
“I spoke to them two weeks ago. We had a pretty candid conversation. DeSantis is looking strong politically and financially, and there are states like Massachusetts, Maryland and Arizona where they see potential pickups on top of incumbent protection,” the consultant, who also stressed that the election is still a year away, said this week in an interview. “They might do some money, but they are not going the way they have been in the past. There are not going to be multi-million-dollar checks.”
Sam Newton, DGA’s deputy communications director, told POLITICO that DeSantis is vulnerable and will face a tough election.
“Florida is a tried and true battleground state where he’ll have to answer for putting his own partisan politics first – even when it hurts Floridians,” Newton told POLITICO via a statement. “That includes opposing Medicaid expansion, costing lives by playing political games with COVID-19, and even slamming local counties and schools with fines just for implementing their own common sense mask and vaccine measures.”
The election is still a year away and the DGA could ramp up its support later in the cycle. Newton emphasized that the DGA is “committed to continue working with both in-state and national partners to build the general election infrastructure — including digital, media, messaging and political engagement — to be ready for whoever wins our nomination.”
A handful of vulnerable incumbent Democratic governors in Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania will be on the ballot in 2022 and will likely take up national resources, while Florida’s national perception as hostile Democratic territory means it won’t receive the same amount of financial help.
“National donors and organizations are worried about protecting the Midwest. Fair enough,” said Ray Paultre, executive director of the Florida Alliance, a loosely aligned coalition of progressive donor groups. “What they are not realizing is that if Florida is not competitive, where do you think a good chunk of that Republican spending is going? Straight to the Midwest and Georgia.”
Democrats have not held the governor’s mansion in Florida in more than two decades, but have come close in recent years. In 2014, Charlie Crist, a former Republican governor who is running for governor as a Democrat in 2022, lost to Republican Rick Scott by one point after Scott put $15 million of his own money in the race late. That year, DGA spent nearly $7 million backing Crist. In 2018, Democrat Andrew Gillum lost to DeSantis by just 40,000 votes after a recount. That cycle, DGA spent $7.6 million supporting Gillum.
Though those races were close, there has long been a sinking feeling among Florida Democrats that DeSantis is on the verge of being unstoppable. Besides his enormous fundraising success, his hands-off pandemic response has made him intensely popular with the Trump base a year after the former president won the state by three points — a landslide in Florida.
The first two Democrats to get in the race, Crist and Agriculture Commissioner Nikki Fried, have lagged in fundraising and exciting Democrats. That gave Miami state Sen. Annette Taddeo an opening to enter the race last month, making it a three-way primary likely to leave the winner with little cash in the bank headed into the general election.
“Let me tell you how the DGA works,” said a DGA staffer who spoke on a condition of anonymity so they could openly discuss how Florida is viewed this cycle. “First, it’s incumbent protection, and there is a bunch of that this year. Then they look at open seats, then they look at challenging incumbents, and DeSantis isn’t the easiest incumbent to challenge.”
“DGA does not look at things in a vacuum,” the staffer added. “We have a lot of races in 2022, and Florida requires, what, $6 to $10 million? That’s a lot.”
For the DGA, like other Democratic national donor groups and political organizations, it is starting to come down to a crisis of confidence in Florida after decades of losing elections.
“Given challenges we have in Florida, donors and other organizations can focus on places where the numbers are better and there is more opportunity,” said Ashley Walker, a longtime Democratic consultant. “Yes, it is different now. In Florida, we have a real challenge to restore confidence that we can actually win here.”
No million-dollar checks: Democratic governors may sit out Florida
TALLAHASSEE — The Democratic Governors Association has no plans to give significant financial help to Florida Democrats as they seek to unseat Gov. Ron DeSantis in 2022, a major setback that will make it harder for challengers to take on the popular Republican.
The DGA, which spent more than $15 million in Florida over the past two gubernatorial election cycles, is starting to deprioritize the state and is expected to have a much smaller footprint during the midterms, said two Florida Democratic consultants who have been in contact with the DGA.
It’s a move driven, in part, by the DGA’s need to use its limited resources to protect incumbent governors elsewhere, as well as the growing sense that Democrats can’t win statewide elections in Florida, these people said, speaking on condition of anonymity to characterize the private discussions.
The decision to withhold resources in Florida deals a blow to Democrats eager to knock off DeSantis, a nationally ascendant Republican with future White House aspirations. It also indicates that Florida is losing its position as the largest swing state, with some national groups deciding that, at least for now, it’s center-right terrain.
The perception that DeSantis is unbeatable has left national Democratic groups like the DGA to weigh whether they should spend resources in Florida, a hugely expensive state with 10 media markets, or use that cash to help incumbents in cheaper states.
“I do think, and I can’t stress this enough, the DGA is playing mostly defense this year, and that’s a monumental change,” said Jonathan Ducote, a veteran Democratic consultant who has worked with the group. “When I think about Florida statewide elections, the number one thing you have to ask yourself is do you have the money to communicate in a really expensive state?"
One of the people who has spoken with the DGA said that DeSantis’ near universal support from the GOP base and $50 million war chest — as well the organization’s focus on incumbents — means Florida is likely to see far less money than past election cycles. There was no dollar figure immediately available.
A second person working with the DGA, who confirmed that the organization is limiting its financial help to Florida Democrats, said he’d be amazed if the DGA invested heavily in the state.
“I spoke to them two weeks ago. We had a pretty candid conversation. DeSantis is looking strong politically and financially, and there are states like Massachusetts, Maryland and Arizona where they see potential pickups on top of incumbent protection,” the consultant, who also stressed that the election is still a year away, said this week in an interview. “They might do some money, but they are not going the way they have been in the past. There are not going to be multi-million-dollar checks.”
Sam Newton, DGA’s deputy communications director, told POLITICO that DeSantis is vulnerable and will face a tough election.
“Florida is a tried and true battleground state where he’ll have to answer for putting his own partisan politics first – even when it hurts Floridians,” Newton told POLITICO via a statement. “That includes opposing Medicaid expansion, costing lives by playing political games with COVID-19, and even slamming local counties and schools with fines just for implementing their own common sense mask and vaccine measures.”
The election is still a year away and the DGA could ramp up its support later in the cycle. Newton emphasized that the DGA is “committed to continue working with both in-state and national partners to build the general election infrastructure — including digital, media, messaging and political engagement — to be ready for whoever wins our nomination.”
A handful of vulnerable incumbent Democratic governors in Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania will be on the ballot in 2022 and will likely take up national resources, while Florida’s national perception as hostile Democratic territory means it won’t receive the same amount of financial help.
“National donors and organizations are worried about protecting the Midwest. Fair enough,” said Ray Paultre, executive director of the Florida Alliance, a loosely aligned coalition of progressive donor groups. “What they are not realizing is that if Florida is not competitive, where do you think a good chunk of that Republican spending is going? Straight to the Midwest and Georgia.”
Democrats have not held the governor’s mansion in Florida in more than two decades, but have come close in recent years. In 2014, Charlie Crist, a former Republican governor who is running for governor as a Democrat in 2022, lost to Republican Rick Scott by one point after Scott put $15 million of his own money in the race late. That year, DGA spent nearly $7 million backing Crist. In 2018, Democrat Andrew Gillum lost to DeSantis by just 40,000 votes after a recount. That cycle, DGA spent $7.6 million supporting Gillum.
Though those races were close, there has long been a sinking feeling among Florida Democrats that DeSantis is on the verge of being unstoppable. Besides his enormous fundraising success, his hands-off pandemic response has made him intensely popular with the Trump base a year after the former president won the state by three points — a landslide in Florida.
The first two Democrats to get in the race, Crist and Agriculture Commissioner Nikki Fried, have lagged in fundraising and exciting Democrats. That gave Miami state Sen. Annette Taddeo an opening to enter the race last month, making it a three-way primary likely to leave the winner with little cash in the bank headed into the general election.
“Let me tell you how the DGA works,” said a DGA staffer who spoke on a condition of anonymity so they could openly discuss how Florida is viewed this cycle. “First, it’s incumbent protection, and there is a bunch of that this year. Then they look at open seats, then they look at challenging incumbents, and DeSantis isn’t the easiest incumbent to challenge.”
“DGA does not look at things in a vacuum,” the staffer added. “We have a lot of races in 2022, and Florida requires, what, $6 to $10 million? That’s a lot.”
For the DGA, like other Democratic national donor groups and political organizations, it is starting to come down to a crisis of confidence in Florida after decades of losing elections.
“Given challenges we have in Florida, donors and other organizations can focus on places where the numbers are better and there is more opportunity,” said Ashley Walker, a longtime Democratic consultant. “Yes, it is different now. In Florida, we have a real challenge to restore confidence that we can actually win here.”
Media is finished with him because the guy has been right about everything and they can't explain why the rest of the country is now in Covid season and Florida is just fine despite no mask mandates and common sense science. Not Science™.
Guy is a shoe-in for the governor election next year and, if he plays cards right, will trounce Biden in 24.
Among refugees from the west coast I've noticed that a lot of conservatives head for Florida and a lot of liberals head for Austin, Texas.
Right now even the media is saying that a ham sandwich could defeat Joe Biden in 2024. Probably the regime will figure out that mandates and firing people is a seriously losing proposition... or not lol.
I think they are about to double down and mandate the vax for small companies. Fireworks to ensue.