Hey moron... variants were showing up in November and even October in other places and states.
DeSantis for the win
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hey moron.... We were in various levels over lockdown and we have variants in CA.
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2776543
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Analysis of 10 431 samples from California, including 4829 from Southern California, revealed that CAL.20C was first observed in July 2020 in 1 of 1247 samples from Los Angeles County and not detected in Southern California again until October. Since then, this variant’s prevalence has increased in the state of California and in Southern California, where on January 22, 2021, it accounted for 35% (86 of 247) and 44% (37 of 85) of all samples collected in January, respectively (Figure 2).
Supplement).
6 Because this study was limited to databases of publicly available genomes and a comparatively small set of local samples, the possibility of collection bias cannot be ruled out. Additionally, as clinical outcomes have yet to be established, the functional effect of this strain regarding infectivity and disease severity remains uncertain. Nevertheless, the identification of this novel strain is important to frontline and global surveillance of this evolving virus.
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2776543
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Analysis of 10 431 samples from California, including 4829 from Southern California, revealed that CAL.20C was first observed in July 2020 in 1 of 1247 samples from Los Angeles County and not detected in Southern California again until October. Since then, this variant’s prevalence has increased in the state of California and in Southern California, where on January 22, 2021, it accounted for 35% (86 of 247) and 44% (37 of 85) of all samples collected in January, respectively (Figure 2).
Supplement).
6 Because this study was limited to databases of publicly available genomes and a comparatively small set of local samples, the possibility of collection bias cannot be ruled out. Additionally, as clinical outcomes have yet to be established, the functional effect of this strain regarding infectivity and disease severity remains uncertain. Nevertheless, the identification of this novel strain is important to frontline and global surveillance of this evolving virus.
You updated your post to push some New York COVID B.1.526 variant that is not even listed by the CDC as a significant "Variant of Concern".
The B.1.526 variant is so meaningless that it is not even being publicly tracked or announced by the CDC as having any importance.
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/transmission/variant-cases.html
Tell me where any of these CDC variants of concern showed up in the United States in October and November. Please provide proof of what states they were in.
Variants of COVID will appear all the time. The majority of variants turn out to be less infectious and just fade out from an evolutionary perspective. The variants of concern are the ones found to be more infectious (and deadly) and become widespread quickly.
Clearly DeSantis’s fault.
Just out of idle curiosity, who is the governor of Michigan? Gretchen Whitmer? What political party is she affiliated with? Democrat? But I thought CNN said all of our Covid problems are because of Trump? (I will report anyone who brings up China to the appropriate authorities immediately).
Clearly Michigan’s forth major outbreak is related to their Winter/Spring tourist season. Wait a minute, maybe I’m conflating which state, Florida or Michigan, has their pandemic friendly, International tourist season spanning from Thanksgiving until Easter, or so.
Please someone help me reconcile the Covid slaughter in Michigan versus Florida, especially given the differences in typical demographics (Age difference comparison between the states).
Pretty please?:
US COVID cases “disturbingly high” as Michigan sees dire spike
Michigan's increases in cases, hospitalizations, deaths may be bellwether for country.
Even as the pace of vaccination in the US nears a heartening 3 million per day, the country hovers on the brink of a fourth surge, with current cases lingering at a “disturbingly high level,” according to top infectious disease expert Anthony Fauci.
The current seven-day average of new daily cases is now over 63,000—levels seen at the base of the record winter surge. “When you’re at that level, there is the risk of getting a surge back up,” Fauci said in an interview with CNN.
Adding to the precarious situation is the highly transmissible B.1.1.7 coronavirus variant, first identified in the UK. It is now the predominant strain of SARS-CoV-2 in the US, Rochelle Walensky (director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention) said in a White House Press Briefing Wednesday.
“These trends are pointing to two clear truths,” Walensky said. “One, the virus still has hold on us—infecting people and putting them in harm’s way—and we need to remain vigilant. And, two, we need to continue to accelerate our vaccination efforts.”
Now, many experts are eyeing Michigan as a potential bellwether for the fate of the rest of the country. As the variant spreads there, the state is seeing a spike in cases, hospitalization, and deaths, rivaling numbers seen in the winter peak. The B.1.1.7 variant has been detected in 46 of the state’s 83 counties.
Michigan’s case rates are up 375 percent since its previous low on February 19, the Michigan Department of Health and Human Services said in a recent data update. According to the CDC, the state has a seven-day case rate of 492 per 100,000 people, the highest case rate in the country. Next is New Jersey, with a seven-day-case rate of 328 per 100,000.
Michigan has seen nearly 50,000 cases in the last seven days, also the highest in the country. It currently has a seven-day rolling average of around 7,000 new cases a day, an 89 percent increase from a week ago, according to tracking by The New York Times.
Surge plans
Hospitalizations are above 3,000 in the state, a 124 percent increase from two weeks ago, and the number of patients filling intensive care units has increased 41 percent just in the last week, according to the MDHHS. State projections estimate that ICU use will exceed that seen in the winter peak by Monday, March 12. MDHHS Director Elizabeth Hertel told reporters Wednesday that hospitals are now looking into implementing their surge plans.
Deaths are also rising now, with an average daily deaths around 36. Since a low on March 9, deaths have increased 75 percent in the state.
The CDC has deployed teams of its public health workers to help with the statewide surge. “We are working closely with the state of Michigan and the state health officials there,” Walensky said Wednesday. The CDC is helping to investigate outbreaks in correctional facilities and youth sports teams. It’s also working to monitor the spread of B.1.1.7 and shift the state’s vaccine supply to the hardest hit areas.
Some experts have questioned whether the Biden administration should send a surge supply of vaccines to the state to try to head off the variant and the spike in cases. Currently, the federal government largely doles out doses based on each state and jurisdiction’s population. But last month, Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer had asked for a boost in supply to avert the state’s surge. The White House declined the request, however, according to The Washington Post.
In the press conference Wednesday, Andy Slavitt, a senior White House advisor on the pandemic, told reporters that, for now, the administration is largely sticking to its population-based distribution plan.
“We have a long way to go today to get the country to a place where each of our states has reached the number of vaccinations that the population can handle,” Slavitt said. “Clearly, we will get to a place where targeted strategies will work. But right now, I would commit to you that we’re doing both.”
BETH MOLEBeth is Ars Technica’s health reporter. She’s interested in biomedical research, infectious disease, health policy and law, and has a Ph.D. in microbiology.
EMAIL beth.mole@arstechnica.com // TWITTER @BethMarieMole
Just out of idle curiosity, who is the governor of Michigan? Gretchen Whitmer? What political party is she affiliated with? Democrat? But I thought CNN said all of our Covid problems are because of Trump? (I will report anyone who brings up China to the appropriate authorities immediately).
Clearly Michigan’s forth major outbreak is related to their Winter/Spring tourist season. Wait a minute, maybe I’m conflating which state, Florida or Michigan, has their pandemic friendly, International tourist season spanning from Thanksgiving until Easter, or so.
Please someone help me reconcile the Covid slaughter in Michigan versus Florida, especially given the differences in typical demographics (Age difference comparison between the states).
Pretty please?:
US COVID cases “disturbingly high” as Michigan sees dire spike
Michigan's increases in cases, hospitalizations, deaths may be bellwether for country.
Even as the pace of vaccination in the US nears a heartening 3 million per day, the country hovers on the brink of a fourth surge, with current cases lingering at a “disturbingly high level,” according to top infectious disease expert Anthony Fauci.
The current seven-day average of new daily cases is now over 63,000—levels seen at the base of the record winter surge. “When you’re at that level, there is the risk of getting a surge back up,” Fauci said in an interview with CNN.
Adding to the precarious situation is the highly transmissible B.1.1.7 coronavirus variant, first identified in the UK. It is now the predominant strain of SARS-CoV-2 in the US, Rochelle Walensky (director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention) said in a White House Press Briefing Wednesday.
“These trends are pointing to two clear truths,” Walensky said. “One, the virus still has hold on us—infecting people and putting them in harm’s way—and we need to remain vigilant. And, two, we need to continue to accelerate our vaccination efforts.”
Now, many experts are eyeing Michigan as a potential bellwether for the fate of the rest of the country. As the variant spreads there, the state is seeing a spike in cases, hospitalization, and deaths, rivaling numbers seen in the winter peak. The B.1.1.7 variant has been detected in 46 of the state’s 83 counties.
Michigan’s case rates are up 375 percent since its previous low on February 19, the Michigan Department of Health and Human Services said in a recent data update. According to the CDC, the state has a seven-day case rate of 492 per 100,000 people, the highest case rate in the country. Next is New Jersey, with a seven-day-case rate of 328 per 100,000.
Michigan has seen nearly 50,000 cases in the last seven days, also the highest in the country. It currently has a seven-day rolling average of around 7,000 new cases a day, an 89 percent increase from a week ago, according to tracking by The New York Times.
Surge plans
Hospitalizations are above 3,000 in the state, a 124 percent increase from two weeks ago, and the number of patients filling intensive care units has increased 41 percent just in the last week, according to the MDHHS. State projections estimate that ICU use will exceed that seen in the winter peak by Monday, March 12. MDHHS Director Elizabeth Hertel told reporters Wednesday that hospitals are now looking into implementing their surge plans.
Deaths are also rising now, with an average daily deaths around 36. Since a low on March 9, deaths have increased 75 percent in the state.
The CDC has deployed teams of its public health workers to help with the statewide surge. “We are working closely with the state of Michigan and the state health officials there,” Walensky said Wednesday. The CDC is helping to investigate outbreaks in correctional facilities and youth sports teams. It’s also working to monitor the spread of B.1.1.7 and shift the state’s vaccine supply to the hardest hit areas.
Some experts have questioned whether the Biden administration should send a surge supply of vaccines to the state to try to head off the variant and the spike in cases. Currently, the federal government largely doles out doses based on each state and jurisdiction’s population. But last month, Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer had asked for a boost in supply to avert the state’s surge. The White House declined the request, however, according to The Washington Post.
In the press conference Wednesday, Andy Slavitt, a senior White House advisor on the pandemic, told reporters that, for now, the administration is largely sticking to its population-based distribution plan.
“We have a long way to go today to get the country to a place where each of our states has reached the number of vaccinations that the population can handle,” Slavitt said. “Clearly, we will get to a place where targeted strategies will work. But right now, I would commit to you that we’re doing both.”
BETH MOLEBeth is Ars Technica’s health reporter. She’s interested in biomedical research, infectious disease, health policy and law, and has a Ph.D. in microbiology.
EMAIL beth.mole@arstechnica.com // TWITTER @BethMarieMole
You are the idiot that is trying blame the spread of variants in other states on De Stantis with no proof.
I have proven to you that at least some variants originated in other places....
So your thesis is garbage without facts.
The onus is on you to prove your bullshit was not bullshit... by luck... since are just bullshitting your ass off as usual.
I have proven to you that at least some variants originated in other places....
So your thesis is garbage without facts.
The onus is on you to prove your bullshit was not bullshit... by luck... since are just bullshitting your ass off as usual.
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We were discussing the U.K. variant as an example. It appeared in Florida first then spread across the United States.
Nobody is interested in the variants you are pushing which are not even “variants of concern” according to the CDC.
I have already demonstrated above you are pushing nonsense — as well as the timeline for the variants of concern which started in Florida.
Well even if you wish to now limit the subject to the UK variant...
It was first detected in Colorado and then California...
so again you are lying your ass off.
B.
You are the moron lying your ass off.
You made a claim about Florida causing variant covid outbreaks in all the other states...
without any proof..
Your brain and facts... do not get along.
https://www.the-scientist.com/news-opinion/first-us-case-of-uk-sars-cov-2-variant-detected-68312
It was first detected in Colorado and then California...
so again you are lying your ass off.
B.
You are the moron lying your ass off.
You made a claim about Florida causing variant covid outbreaks in all the other states...
without any proof..
Your brain and facts... do not get along.
https://www.the-scientist.com/news-opinion/first-us-case-of-uk-sars-cov-2-variant-detected-68312