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Buy1Sell2 said:
Which is what is happening now
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I don’t know. I’m not really up on what Florida is doing to mitigate spread. If bars are open and there is no face covering required I would surprised if Florida is peaking and not plateauing.

If Florida is doing a county by county mitigation effort, I’d expect a drop from Miami-Dade then a spike somewhere else because that’s basically a reactionary whack-a-mole effort.

The whack-a-mole strategy is what we see as we look at cases rising and falling among the many states. Yesterday was Texas, Florida, Georgia tomorrow is Tennessee, etc.

The point is we really missed the boat on the first lock down to truly contain this thing. We are so far behind and have such a long haul in front of us.
 
gwb-trading said:
Already posted on this thread in the recent days. Go read the article. Florida has greater than 50% of deaths from nursing homes. New York only had 20%.
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Canada was at 81% deaths in long term care for the first few months, but most of our new infections are young people now. In terms of understanding the future, Toronto may help illustrate a lot next few months. Rock bottom on new infections now ( 4 on Monday, 1 on Tuesday ); moving to level 3 on Friday ( about as cautious a plan as anyone has taken in NA ). Most of Canada has been level 3 for at least a few weeks already.

In some ways, Toronto is the polar opposite of early days Sweden in approach. The future will indicate which approach worked out best and to what degree. I do however think Canada and Sweden's current approach is probably similar in nature, as many US states might be. How we chose to get to this point is quite different.

Florida remains a predictable mess and the virus deniers or minimalists of here keep moving the goalposts of what they consider to be fine. At one point, I argued that 40-60 deaths a day in Florida was too many. So we are now 130-230 a day. It is what it is as I said 3 months ago I'm comfortable with the path we chose willing to live with all aspects of it.
 
Tsing Tao said:
Ok, so in order to determine whether the war in FL is lost, what do we benchmark it to, and more importantly, when do we benchmark it?

Kinda reminds me of the stock market threads on here where the bears all say "Hahah!! Seee?" when there is a down day or week and the bulls do the opposite when there is an up day.
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It is important however to note that the medical experts ( the good ones ) raised the right red flags in the early days and were routinely mocked or dismissed by many people. Which in my opinion tends to make people on the fence on safety precautions take extra risks, and gives some deniers a feeling they can act as they want without impunity.

The fact we have several posters on here openly denying the virus as a risk helps denote the lunatic fringe will always exist and the internet gives them a voice. I don't consider you to be a virus denier but do think you are trying to hard to minimize the risk using data that can change rapidly in even a month.
 
UsualName said:
I don’t know. I’m not really up on what Florida is doing to mitigate spread. If bars are open and there is no face covering required I would surprised if Florida is peaking and not plateauing.

If Florida is doing a county by county mitigation effort, I’d expect a drop from Miami-Dade then a spike somewhere else because that’s basically a reactionary whack-a-mole effort.

The whack-a-mole strategy is what we see as we look at cases rising and falling among the many states. Yesterday was Texas, Florida, Georgia tomorrow is Tennessee, etc.

The point is we really missed the boat on the first lock down to truly contain this thing. We are so far behind and have such a long haul in front of us.
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I've heard that a great way to get things back to normal would be to protect the vulnerable and let it run in the low risk group in order to reach herd immunity such as is likely in Sweden and other places.
 
Buy1Sell2 said:
I've heard that a great way to get things back to normal would be to protect the vulnerable and let it run in the low risk group in order to reach herd immunity such as is likely in Sweden and other places.
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Sweden is a complete failure... we don't want to follow their poor example.
 
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