DeSantis 2024

We are watching multiple GOP candidates scrub any mention of Trump from their websites -- pretending Trump no longer exists. The successful GOP candidates in competitive races appear to be the ones --- like Youngkin --- who never associated themselves with Trump. This trend is only going to accelerate.

Not necessarily so. I just saw Youngkin on Bloomberg twenty minutes ago and and host repeatedly made reference to the fact that he was a trump supporter right to his face and he never batted an eye. Again, what is missing for you and the left- or that you are just beginning to realize- is that lots of republican think for themselves. You might be able to tag them to trump in some instances, but then they take a different tact in another setting in regard a senate or congressional candidate. This differs from the democrats who get their script from the dnc and that is their position.

Also, in regard to candidates distancing themselves from trump and not wanting him to campaign in their state, that phenomenon is exceeded with dems and biden so maybe work on that.
 
Not necessarily so. I just saw Youngkin on Bloomberg twenty minutes ago and and host repeatedly made reference to the fact that he was a trump supporter right to his face and he never batted an eye. Again, what is missing for you and the left- or that you are just beginning to realize- is that lots of republican think for themselves. You might be able to tag them to trump in some instances, but then they take a different tact in another setting in regard a senate or congressional candidate. This differs from the democrats who get their script from the dnc and that is their position.

Also, in regard to candidates distancing themselves from trump and not wanting him to campaign in their state, that phenomenon is exceeded with dems and biden so maybe work on that.

If you have a video clip of Younkin on Bloomberg I would be happy to check it out. It is well known that Youngkin refused to have Trump campaign with him and never mentioned Trump in his campaign information.

I expect the Bloomberg host was trying to bait Younkin with the statement about Trump and Youngkin just ignored it -- just like in other media interviews. Are you claiming that Youngkin came out and said he was a Trump supporter?
 
If you have a video clip of Younkin on Bloomberg I would be happy to check it out. It is well known that Youngkin refused to have Trump campaign with him and never mentioned Trump in his campaign information.

I expect the Bloomberg host was trying to bait Younkin with the statement about Trump and Youngkin just ignored it -- just like in other media interviews. Are you claiming that Youngkin came out and said he was a Trump supporter?

Did I say that?
 
Did I say that?

So once again this was just a media interviewer attempting to bait Youngkin with a reference to supporting Trump. As in many previous interviews -- Yougkin just ignored the assertion.

Pretty meaningless in the big picture. The big picture being that successful GOP candidates in competitive races are those who do not associate themselves with Trump -- and there are numerous GOP candidates scrubbing their websites & media of all references to Trump prior the midterms -- trying to pretend Trump does not exist.
 
While we are at it --- let's take a look at a typical candidate supported by Trump.

The Donald Trump endorsed Qanon candidate who wants to be Michigan's next secretary of state grabbed the steering wheel in a car her ex-husband was driving, and while her kids were in the car said "Fuck it, I'll kill us all".


"Karamo, a Trump-endorsed 2020 election denier, is a conspiracy theorist who spoke at a QAnon conference in 2021, has called abortion “child sacrifice” and a “satanic practice,” and believes that demonic possession is real. She suggested a “citizenship arrest” of billionaire liberal donor George Soros in 2017.If she wins in November, she will be in charge of the swing state’s elections. She is running on a platform emphasizing election denial and the importance of investigating voter fraud that does not exist."



'Fuck It, I’ll Kill Us All': Kristina Karamo's Ex-Husband Accused Her of Trying to Crash Car with Entire Family Inside
Karamo is the Trump-endorsed Republican nominee for Michigan’s secretary of state, a position that oversees elections
https://jezebel.com/fuck-it-i-ll-kill-us-all-kristina-karamos-ex-husband-1849487292
 
"Trump's Save America political action committee send a notice on Wednesday that shared the headline and link for an Insider story about a new 2024 poll."

"That August 10 poll showed that Trump gained a 10-point boost over Florida's DeSantis among Republican primary voters, even in the wake of the FBI's search of the former president's Mar-a-Lago estate just two days prior."


Trump lashes out at would-be 2024 rivals DeSantis and Youngkin as some GOP allies distance themselves from his latest scandal
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-rips-would-be-2024-rivals-desantis-and-youngkin-2022-9
 
The big GOP donors are moving over to back DeSantis for 2024...

Billionaire investor and Trump megadonor Peter Thiel praises Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis as 'the best of the governors' for offering 'a real alternative to California'
https://www.businessinsider.com/peter-thiel-shares-what-he-thinks-about-ron-desantis-2022-9
  • Thiel said Republicans need to do more than point to problems in liberal states like California.
  • Of all GOP governors, DeSantis was the one doing it right, Thiel said.
  • But he added that he worried about soaring housing prices in the Sunshine State.
AVENTURA, Florida — Billionaire investor Peter Thiel on Sunday said he feared Republicans were too focused on bashing liberal states such as California, when they should instead be offering a "positive agenda" for the future of the party.

In a speech delivered at the National Conservatism Conference, Thiel painted a bleak picture of his home state of California and said at least one governor was going about alternative policymaking the right way: Florida's Ron DeSantis.

"DeSantis in Florida is probably the best of the governors in terms of offering a real alternative to California," Thiel said, speaking before a crowd of attendees at the JW Marriott Miami Turnberry Resort.

But Thiel also had one major disclaimer, saying that he worried about how expensive housing in Florida had become. Thiel said he bought an $18 million home in Miami in 2020 that was now worth about $35 million. A test for the state's policies, he said, would be whether housing prices fall.

"The fact that real estate in Florida or Texas has melted up over the last two or three years is not evidence that you're succeeding and building a better model than California," he said. "I'm worried that that's evidence that you're becoming like California."

Housing prices are among the top issues Democrats are weaponizing against DeSantis as he seeks reelection in November. The state has faced an influx of residents since the COVID-19 pandemic, which has contributed to rising costs.

DeSantis has pushed through numerous policies as governor that have drawn the ire of the left, including policies on abortion, voting rights, and limiting the way race, gender, and sexuality are discussed in schools.

DeSantis also faced his fair share of tussles with California. Democratic Gov. Gavin Newsom has criticized the governor and has run ads attacking him in Florida. The dispute led to speculation that the two could potentially face off in the 2024 presidential race if they both decided to run for their respective parties' nominations.

Thiel cofounded PayPal and was an early investor in Facebook, the company now known as Meta. He was one of former President Donald Trump's most outspoken supporters and has criticized Silicon Valley, relocating to Los Angeles in 2018.

On Sunday, Thiel said during his remarks that his "intuition" told him that Republicans' "nihilistic negation" wouldn't suffice in creating an alternative vision for growth.

"The temptation on our side is always going to be that all we have to do is say that we're not California," he said. "It is just such an ugly picture, the homeless poop, people pooping all over the place, it's the ridiculous rat-infested apartments that don't work anymore, it's the woke insanities, there's so much that it feels like shooting fish in a barrel. It's so easy, so ridiculous to denounce."

The question Republicans should be asking, he said, was: "How can we concretely offer a vision for the 21st century that's better than California?"

Bashing California "might be enough to win in the midterms in '22," Thiel said, "It might be enough to win in '24. But we want to have more of a program positive vision, something like that to be credible."

Thiel raised concerns about the 2022 cycle, saying Republicans weren't doing as well as during the Tea Party swell in 2010, or in 1994 when then-Minority Whip Newt Gingrich presented the GOP agenda in the form of the Contract for America.

Thiel didn't raise any specific senators by name, but Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell has not offered an agenda for the party ahead of the 2022 midterms, while National Republican Senatorial Committee Chair Rick Scott of Florida has, in the form of an "11-point Plan to Rescue America."

Several news articles have indicated there's a rift between the two GOP leaders. But Scott, in a letter to supporters, accused the media of trying to "divide and defeat Republicans."

(More at above url)
 
Look who can't even out-poll Kamala.

Kamala Harris continues to edge Ron DeSantis in polling of hypothetical 2024 match-up
https://floridapolitics.com/archive...ge-ron-desantis-in-hypothetical-2024-polling/

DeSantis calls the VP 'impeachment insurance,' but polls show her ahead of him.

Gov. Ron DeSantis continues to be discussed as a potential 2024 presidential candidate, but polling shows he’d have a tough time against one hypothetical opponent.

September’s Harvard-Harris Poll again posed the question of who respondents would choose in a theoretical matchup between DeSantis and Vice President Kamala Harris. As in previous months, DeSantis trailed the California Democrat.

Harris drew 41% support, with DeSantis commanding 38% backing, and a remaining 21% of respondents unsure.

This is consistent with previous polling that mostly show Harris with a narrow edge.

A Harvard/Harris Poll from May shows Harris was the choice of 41% of respondents, with DeSantis at 38% and 20% undecided.

Harris commanded the support of 42% of those polled, with DeSantis the choice of 38% of respondents, in the April survey.

A February poll showed Harris the choice of 41% of those surveyed, with DeSantis at 39%.

A January Harvard/Harris Poll, meanwhile, showed DeSantis 1 point ahead of Harris, with 40% support and just 39% for the Vice President.

Despite the polling trend suggesting more Americans would want Harris over DeSantis as President, the Governor has called the Vice President “impeachment insurance” for President Joe Biden in the recent past.

“So, here’s the thing. I thought Biden picking her at first was the worst decision ever because she’s not great. But she’s like the best impeachment insurance and 25th Amendment insurance anyone could have,” DeSantis said on Fox News’ Ingraham Angle in July.

“Because as bad as Biden is, even though he can barely read the teleprompter, and as much as people disapprove of him, nobody wants Harris, and so they’d much rather stick with Biden floundering around than actually turn the wheels of power over to somebody that clearly is in over her head,” DeSantis told Fox News Channel viewers.
 
Look who can't even out-poll Kamala.

Kamala Harris continues to edge Ron DeSantis in polling of hypothetical 2024 match-up
https://floridapolitics.com/archive...ge-ron-desantis-in-hypothetical-2024-polling/

DeSantis calls the VP 'impeachment insurance,' but polls show her ahead of him.

Gov. Ron DeSantis continues to be discussed as a potential 2024 presidential candidate, but polling shows he’d have a tough time against one hypothetical opponent.

September’s Harvard-Harris Poll again posed the question of who respondents would choose in a theoretical matchup between DeSantis and Vice President Kamala Harris. As in previous months, DeSantis trailed the California Democrat.

Harris drew 41% support, with DeSantis commanding 38% backing, and a remaining 21% of respondents unsure.

This is consistent with previous polling that mostly show Harris with a narrow edge.

A Harvard/Harris Poll from May shows Harris was the choice of 41% of respondents, with DeSantis at 38% and 20% undecided.

Harris commanded the support of 42% of those polled, with DeSantis the choice of 38% of respondents, in the April survey.

A February poll showed Harris the choice of 41% of those surveyed, with DeSantis at 39%.

A January Harvard/Harris Poll, meanwhile, showed DeSantis 1 point ahead of Harris, with 40% support and just 39% for the Vice President.

Despite the polling trend suggesting more Americans would want Harris over DeSantis as President, the Governor has called the Vice President “impeachment insurance” for President Joe Biden in the recent past.

“So, here’s the thing. I thought Biden picking her at first was the worst decision ever because she’s not great. But she’s like the best impeachment insurance and 25th Amendment insurance anyone could have,” DeSantis said on Fox News’ Ingraham Angle in July.

“Because as bad as Biden is, even though he can barely read the teleprompter, and as much as people disapprove of him, nobody wants Harris, and so they’d much rather stick with Biden floundering around than actually turn the wheels of power over to somebody that clearly is in over her head,” DeSantis told Fox News Channel viewers.

But Trump, on the other hand, in your "poll" beats both Biden and Kamala. And with such a large undecided in the DeSantis matchup, where do you think the undecided would break once the contest were an actual matchup? More people don't know Kamala? Or DeSantis?

LOL

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