Derek Chauvin jury reaches verdict in George Floyd case

[Overnight]

Dont think they will charge him with both, has to be one or the other but I am not up on State criminal law in MINN. That is why the prosecution gives different charges. If they give only thei highest and jury thinks it would be lesser they have to acquit. So you give all the charges you think can be applied and jury either chooses the appropriate one or acquits on all counts.

Nah. My understand of the law is that you can be found guilty on counts 1, 2, and/or 3, or nor guilty on 1,2 and/or 3.

That is why they (prosecutors) don't just go for one count alone. That way it is not a one or nothing deal.

 

[Tony Stark]

Tell Tony my thread is cutting edge with the correct title!

https://www.elitetrader.com/et/threads/too-many-threads.356218/

 

[FortuneTeller]

The verdict will be read in open court between 3:30 p.m. and 4 p.m. local time.

Jury reaches a verdict in the Derek Chauvin trial (msn.com)

 

[FortuneTeller]

I am sure that the Antifa and Black Looters Matter crew have been coming in droves on the Soros buses for the last few days.

They are ready to party and the verdict one way or the other makes ZERO difference to them.

No liquor store in town is safe. Not that there is any "inventory" left.
Good time coming for them.

Of course Portland has already ramped up the looting and burning, because, well, that's what they do every day or week anyway so one reason is as good as another.

 

[El OchoCinco]

Nah. My understand of the law is that you can be found guilty on counts 1, 2, and/or 3, or nor guilty on 1,2 and/or 3.

That is why they (prosecutors) don't just go for one count alone. That way it is not a one or nothing deal.

I still say the jury will be hung on the first two and find him guilty of the 3rd lesser charge. the adddition of intent makes the burden of proof so much higher.

 

[Overnight]

I still say the jury will be hung on the first two and find him guilty of the 3rd lesser charge. the adddition of intent makes the burden of proof so much higher.

The really messed up thing is if they find him guilty on that 3rd charge, the penalty is 10 years in prison and/OR a $20,000 fine.

Imagine if the judge imposes just a 20K fine for manslaughter? That would be a pip.

 

[FortuneTeller]

The really messed up thing is if they find him guilty on that 3rd charge, the penalty is 10 years in prison and/OR a $20,000 fine.

Imagine if the judge imposes just a 20K fine for manslaughter? That would be a pip.

So the judge has a choice of 10 years or 20K? How strange is that.

There is a big difference between doing 20 years and paying 20K.

 

[TreeFrogTrader]

I still say the jury will be hung on the first two and find him guilty of the 3rd lesser charge. the adddition of intent makes the burden of proof so much higher.

Did they ask for a change of venue in this case?

He is a bad actor and needs to be prosecuted somewhere but how the hell he can get a fair trial in a city where if you are juror and vote to acquit you are a dead man walking is beyond me.

I presume that they made the request just to have it on the record for appeal.

 

[El OchoCinco]

The really messed up thing is if they find him guilty on that 3rd charge, the penalty is 10 years in prison and/OR a $20,000 fine.

Imagine if the judge imposes just a 20K fine for manslaughter? That would be a pip.

I am not sure that is right... I have not pulled up the statute but it says for manslaughter the judge can sentence him to 4.5 years for first time offender. I don't think you walk out with just a fine for this type of crime.

EDIT: Ok that is what the statute says but no way the judge offers only a fine if jury finds him guilty.

 

[FortuneTeller]

Someone tell Tony this thread title was the main article on every news station in the whole USA as soon as it came out. It's not like I made it up or anything.

Thank you.