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Quote from jack hershey:

Deduction proves OODA is untrue as a market betting system.

Thank you Jack, how do you use deduction when inside a 'lateral' to trade the breakout from the lateral?

How do you use deduction to know the price is going to break up or down?

Thank you again,
 
The person who is completing the four questions, ain't.

Lets look at Question 2.

We have finite math as the mathematics.

Lets choose an operating system for this finite math.

We already know we ar using stuff called: criteria, filters, functions, rulkes , strategies and they form libraries (systems).

We all went to high school. We brought uor repainted Montesorri sticks along.

Finite math uses "operators: four for arithmetic: +, -, /, and *. add in the inequalities (6) and then polish it off wit the last four in alphabetical order: AND, NOT, OF, OR. we have 14 things to work with and this completes the tooling.

How do you fel about the system of the market's operation.

Lets look at the trading dashboard. You have to use it to make money.

We have a system that lets us "know that we know" all of the time. Our emoting is three simultaneous mood builders called: support, comfort, and confidence. Each one comes from a part of "knowing that we know". Knowing is above the neck and emotions are below the neck. Beause we have tools and a market that is granular, it follows that we can define the ingredients of the market, operate the tools and always know that we know. If we know that we know, then we are using the trading dasboard to do three things:

Size, make money, collect profit segments. We find that this is crystal clear and we say Semper Fi.

What trading dasboard ooperations do this: HOLD and REVERSE.

It is true that markets turn on and off so we have to participate from open to close. We have a big reason for this. You have to be in the market to be part of the market.

For price there are 10 ingredients. For Volume there are 11 pieces.

The price pieces squish. Post quishing there are three pieces, as expected: long, short, and WAIT. Do this one page exercise with a small pencil and a large eraser. Notice that the eraser does NOT work in your mind.

Volume is so different than price. The bars are all anchored by our display choice. So we color the bars and assure the price and volume bars are the same sensing colors and we do not use the background color as one of the colors.

Price tells use which volume bars to take the measure of.

Bingo. We have the only operating system that lets us alwys "know that we know". While I was at the UCSC, the APL was built using two back to back 360's. I watched occasionally since I was part of the brass. (Around the Bicentenial). Wharton had recruited me, also.

Our tool box is RDBMS. We have leading and lagging variables so Price is used to gate and kill vollume, the leading indicator of price.

Granularity is a KEY. This is the answer to the thrid Q. So the thrid Q is: What is the underlying element of all market chracteristics?

We see displays of two types of adjacent price bars for making money: XR's and XB's. They are squished bars most of the time. If they are not either, then we are WAITING and we keep squishing (laterals)., A lateral is a place where price is not changing and, therefore, we are very supported, comfotable and confident. (Nothing is going on and we know that we know.)

So the system comes down to the process of the market.

The market does one thing.

So far we have used the work of several dead people. This means there is nothing new in markets and the markets always operate the same way.

We are in the market during RTH and taking the full offer of the market segment by segment. Time is not a variable in markets. So we do not use math that involves time in any manner.

In the beginning, this was written on A size velluum. the copier had not been invented. But there were monographs done. As an MTS at BTL, I got monographs on the invention of the transistor (I took them to college and surprised my EE profs.) The blueprint machine was stinky and fast from a IBM typewriter master. We had to pencil our own charts on brownlines.

This post simply packages all the mind work for operating by using the deductions of how know that you know, always what is going on in the market with full certainty at 100% CW based probability.

Think 5 to 10 years from now, all quants are replaced with HS graduates and some fifth graders.
 
Q1

Q2

Q3

Last Q. Call it Q4.

What are the OOE's of markets.

There are five.

Primary on trading fractal

Scondary on last move of Primary (we need precision to end the trade.

Test Procedure OOE,

System OOE for EE's

System OOE for the above OOE's.

All five come together to act as a leading system for trends.

The CW thinks in terms of OO D and A.

The environment is OO; the BET is D; and finding out what happens to the bet is A. This leads to entry/exit type trading. Beginning , middle, and non correlated ends. Two emotion sets have been reported: when in trade and when on sidelines. Between in and out there is a condition called WHEW!!!!

Institutions seem to collect fees and share profits. try 2 nd 20.

Marker surfer shows Conners @ 25% a year; Covel leads with Henry @ 20% a year.

Taking the full offer segment by segment is called "unbelievable" by mostly everyone. My SEC experience is that this level of participation has a profile: insider trader.

Marketsurfer has explained that doing he unbelievable and being called insider trader is just a phenomena taht is part of the mix and its cause is getting results and NOT knowing what you are doing.

My alterative view is that iterative refinement using a Scientific deductive Method has a result where the operating system has five interlocking OOE's and you always know that you know during and between every copiously named event where all possible events are named and defined in coding using RDBMS APL designed codes that grew out of C++ generations.

below the neck especially while using ATS systems the feelings are from three emotions of support. comfort and confidence, i . e. , the dull, no surprise world.

I regard all published results for what happened on 06
MAY as jokes written as unknowing humor in the lingo of CW and the associated betting systems.

If you trade, skip the betting and finding out what happened. This is "reaction" and below the neck it has anxiety, fear and anger as cornestones as behavioral science has determined.

"The Pattern" shows the Primary OOE's. "Scoring" combines three market variables in their interlocking frequencies to show the "cycle". "clean page two" shows the price cases. Clean page four shows the reagions for Point 2 of the single simple pattern. "The Pattern is the geometric proof of how cycles are compsed of two trends of opposite sentiment. The key in "The Patten" is the FTT. Further, trends do overlap and the end of the overlap is defined as T1 s part of the first trend move which has three pieces (P1, T1 and P2) which make up the leading Primary OOE along with the PT 2 to PT3, second move of the trend.

The Sec OOE defines the last move of the trend to the FTT and coincidently P3P. Here is where 7 volume pieces can be used to dfine the last move in the parallelogram first begun by the first two moves of the trend.

Testing is done by an OOE of three parts:

1. repeat,

2, reverse chron, and

3. Next

As I see it, Behavioral Finance explains in BF or BS, the way iterative efinement builds the cognitive mind. Transference of knowledge and skill is through NLP which creates pictures of what must be drilled to create a spectrum which becomes a fully diffentiated mind. thee is only one way that this happens. It is in a finite element setting.

The mind is built over time. For markets, I spent about 30 to 40 days unil I reached and pssed to point where the mind automatically and correctly, intellectually builds itself regardless of the nvironment.

In closing let me define his miraculous point (MP) in personal cognitive time. The 3x5 card of all sensory based thoughts has a dot on it. Thus a ratio of conscious to unconsious thought is established by division in arithmetic: 10,000/ 20,000,000. (the older original numbers)

You awaken. MP is now part of your life.

What changed permanently?

As you slept, cognitive processing was cusing new snaptic connections ot be mad under the cdontrol of mental processes that work as you sleep. REM measures this. When I am under, I have a bad time. I stop breathing 20 times for over 3 minutes and about 78 times for under three minutes. My returning to sleep consumes time about 100 times a night.

BUT I have had this MP. So early on I lkearned to "work" while sleping and keep steno pad notes daily. I also recorded dreams and ype them as poetic reprsentations that were regarded by Jungians and excepitional, since I knew I knew what they meant.

AT MP, your mind has been able, while sleeping, to organize the unconscious into the conscious organization ALL BEFORE YOU AWKEN.

Before tht MP, you awken and begin your next day, unfullfilled, cognitively speaking. As days become weeks and months in this unfulfilled state, the multi site organizational non structure prevents a spectrum of knowledge and skills to be manufactured. No associative differentiation of elements is accumulating.

When MP occurs, your mind begins to work differently durng sleep and also when you're awake and either moving forward or even relaxing or fucking someone (LOL).

you recognize some of this as aha's HA's or even religious experiences. Things you can use come to your consciousness.

the other thing you recognize is a fom of purposefullness. You have a spectrum and you have a semblance of differentiation. And your mind is working AND keeping up at night.

The mind has spare time. I got some MORE spare time by getting a machine that breathes all the time and oxygen is added up to the point of not eating up my carbon so I am in high gear and fully differentiated and automating to the N'th degree.

the mind focuses on sking your consciousness for answrs in weak part of your forming spectrum. It all happens to full differentiation. You can watch people. It is really funny.

QED.
 
Quote from slacker:

Thank you Jack, how do you use deduction when inside a 'lateral' to trade the breakout from the lateral?

How do you use deduction to know the price is going to break up or down?

Thank you again,

there are two answers.

first, for your benefit, I will post these laterals and you can digest them as personal drills in mind building.

second I will do the proof for you using the Scientific Method and cognition as a mind building for a focus on weak points in your already built spectrum. It will be like doing the work as "shortcuts".

I made a tree (root like thing) of all possible trend processes using granularity and the comingling of the OOE of EE's and the OOE's of Pri's Sec's and their subordinant test procedure OOE's. Lots of scotch taping and cut and pasting.

So I found that there was a hint, then a cause to, and then workaround on the lat's lifestyle and character.

It is the lat7. IE, the lat's 7'th event.(7th bar formng.)
I do the hustle at that time over those 300 seconds. I go back and just do "next" on each bar.(I'm subfractal'ing and just being coarse all the way. take a relook at the Sweeps tables (9) to see the sum and substance of the proof). NEXT means ssigning the next OOE that comes up in the PRI and SEC OOE's. If I get an EE I tag it and start through the trend OOE's again. I did three EE tags on a chart I posted a week or so ago. grab the post, print the chart and have your first drill experience.

As a sideline, you can pickup the 35 EE's any time you wish. Go for it.

Your handle is sooo very cool. I bet you fool all those OODA CW folk. Do you think we ought to lay it on the financial industry once and for all? Or should I just get old and die first and become a research paper??? Hey Zeus!!!!!. LOL

You made my day!!!
 
Quote from slacker:

Thank you Jack, how do you use deduction when inside a 'lateral' to trade the breakout from the lateral?

How do you use deduction to know the price is going to break up or down?

Thank you again,

Now, the BO up or down part.

Once you get past lat7 it is prima facia.

BUT we need to do the less than lat7.

this is an event when you have time on your hands.

Naturally I go to look at the big money and smart money and keep ingnoring the chicken feed.

As you know, for those people there is risk in trading and peple are getting headaches. So they turn to insurance.

We turn on our "insider trading" profile.

we have to be "pushed" to be real super insider trades.

The lat BO is someone else's "revenge trade" to make up for a prior screw up. Its like runnng "little shadows" against Bollinger bands.

BO's for us are usually not trades; they are continues.

For early warnings look at the OOE elements that are part of the current trend and the inter-ranges between each. The PRV tells you where the range action is. It is either a NEXT or it is an EE in the order of OOE's of EE's

Comfort comes from the lat giving you a breather. Support comes from the range focus you have. Since you are in range and have an OOE's for the test procedure, don't use it until the automated lat container is close to being broken. Fake the BO mentally so you know the annotation if it happens. If an EE is possible then fool around by not pressing buttons on your trading dashboard. Just jiggle the arrow on the icon with your finger off the moving mouse part. I use different mice, so people watching me "read" my left hand and cheat to slip in ahead of my reverse.

BO's do not happen at the end of bars; s the joke goes they happen at second 25 on the count down.

Here is anther thing. A bar can stick out BUT it has to CLOSE out to count for something in trading. Imagine an OODA CW person not knowing that>>>>>
 
Quote from jack hershey:

Or should I just get old and die first and become a research paper???....
You made my day!!!
Wishing you a happy holidays and many years to go...

I wish I could have asked the lateral question better...

I understand most of the 8 rules Ok, Ftt to Ftt Ok. The lateral question is where OODA and MADA break down...

When a SCT trader reaches a lateral, at what time in the lateral does a reversal take place? In this last message it is not until the next bar closes outside of the lateral. Correct? That could get expensive if you were a SCT trader...

All the best...
 
Quote from marketsurfer:

It's related to the truth of the market and how it really works. Not what makes sense to you-- like getting an edge by looking at past price on a chart, seems to make sense but once you gain understanding seems ridiculous.

I don't think meriweather from LTCM is a showman by any stretch yet he blew up spectacularly and immediately raised another substantial sum. I could go on and on with examples. Big risk is needed for big rewards. Real investors understand this. If you can't embrace it, why not just get a job rather than trade?

I think it's important to draw the line between big REAL risk, and big PERCEIVED risk. The handful of guys who correctly played the housing credit default swaps had very little real risk and they made an absolute fortune.
 
Quote from dolemitettu:

I think it's important to draw the line between big REAL risk, and big PERCEIVED risk. The handful of guys who correctly played the housing credit default swaps had very little real risk and they made an absolute fortune.

Excellent point. Yes.
 
Quote from slacker:

Wishing you a happy holidays and many years to go...

I wish I could have asked the lateral question better...

I understand most of the 8 rules Ok, Ftt to Ftt Ok. The lateral question is where OODA and MADA break down...

In MADA it is as described.

OODA is different. OO is observe and orient. This is the beginning of a system (most are not anyway)breaking down. Marketsurfer explains that people who do not use bar-by bar often see a thing a called a setup.

If a setup is seen, then Kelly ,etc kicks in for these people and so does using very complex maths to do stuff NOT handled by non- granularity type maths. Actual answers begin to show up with numbers NOT included in the markets. A person gets an answer that cannot ever happen is a sweet example.

So CW uses a thing where research has gotten all the things that can be hoped for. All setups that are thus envisioned do not always have the same resulting profitable answer.

In CW there is an invention called a STOP. In making money with 100% certainty, a STOP is not part of the posited result.

It may, in fact be true, that a setup does not have a guarranteed profit result. Wikipedia is not a resource for getting definitions. It is an opinion polling iterative refinement system. Probably stops and setups are defined there for the CW type OODA usuers.

The D of OODA is a bet placing schema. For some reson there is a belief system in CW and OODA where people do something called management on betting and they have management classifications. One is called risk management.

It may come from the idea that money is a commodity (work horse) and horses have work hours. Money is NOT a commodity if it is associated with risk.

Look at the CDS's. and insurance offerred by AIG. In he financial industry betting is insurred by insurance companies..

Bundling mortgages and slicing tranches were inventions. And these inventions were insured more than once per unit.

Housing stock that is mortgaged is going through a 20% reduction in the use of mortgages. The the group of people who have white cohorts is no longer growing in any way. As the US grows in population it is an immigrant addition exclusively. There are no rules for this. Mortgages sought are sought 80% of the time by non whites. This is true of first time mortgages and up grade mortgages.

The financial industry is not doing inventions to consume OPM. With fees shinking on inventions that no longer work and have no regulatory rules, it is possible that OO and D and then seeing how it turns out for A, may have breakdown added risk a all points in the process in the future.

I am looking forward to seing the lobbying structure of the future for the financial industry in the US and in foreign operations.

At this point there is a cognitive part nd and a below the neck part of the financial industry. The failure of the moral and ethical basis of the Financial industry has consequences. Also, in the future there could be regulation and even enforcement.

So my arrangment with the CW type regulators is to not have them send me citations anymore. the plan is that when they get data to cite me, I will send them the same response as they had to accept before and then withdraw the citation.

MADA looks like insider trading as an SEC profile. This means there are no OODA risks nor any OODA risk mangement for breakdowns. See more on MADA risk below.


When a SCT trader reaches a lateral, at what time in the lateral does a reversal take place?

Good followup. As a lateral unfolds, you relax. you see bar 3. then you have 20 more minutes uyntil bar 7. During that time the price change is within the shadow bar's volatility, so no money can be lost or made. A lot of OODA bets are being make and alot of OODA bets are being concluded by side lining. Most of all you see impossible OODA trades being put on the book out of ignorance of market capacity and market velocity. Ho Hum.

At bar 7 you hustle to annotate completed bars. If there are EE's you note the sentiment change. you then prepare to do wash trades to stay on the correct side of the market.

What are the distributions of the possible EE's during a lateral. Give thought to three bar EE's and 4 bar EE's and a couple of common 5 bar EE's if it is midday.

If you are in a given trade and then a latral appears, you want an even number of EE's so you are still on the correct side for the next EE which is AFTER the BO of the lateral. The bar 1 of the lateral is the volatility of the MARKET also.


In this last message it is not until the next bar closes outside of the lateral. Correct? That could get expensive if you were a SCT trader...

Pretend you are taking the full offer of the market. This instills an attitude relative to only doing cognitive work to trade and dumping the below the neck stuff. A result is that you get emotions from support, comfort and confidence.

If, under any circumstances, you are getting tinges of the CW emotional set, then you are headed into a set of syndromes that are not part of taking the full offer of the market. In SCT, you know you know all of the time. Tinges of CW emotions tell you loud and clear you do NOT know you know.

You only make the full offer each day. All reversals have a zone of 10 or more minutes to execute. During this time, you could have a smoke on the front sidewalk.

In SCT you have to park at certain contract levels occasionally. It is difficult to handle getting rich too fast. I measure sports coats in multiples of 50 inches of pipe racks. We like to use a room as a closet. When you go from 50 to 100 contracts you have to sit at 100 for a while.

At some point you notice all trading is partial fills. Its is not good to trade blocks bigger than the T&S blocks.

A lateral in MADA is a time to relax. In OODA it is a risk management failure. In MADA you know that you know. In OODA the space between entry and exit has no names at this point in the sophistication of CW and OODA.

In PEP and its applications, everybar is squished into an XB or an XR or you are relaxed in a lateral. Every thing and at all times has a mathematically defined name. PEP and its applications are totally codable in about any APL.


All the best...

I am surrounded here. Liz is licsenced hypotist. She has one more cours to go to be a Depak instuctor. My buddies talk with the Dhali Llama. Zinn asks how he can help train our trainers for PTSD. My EMDR person is always sking how its going; I am the new experiment advancing her knowledge. My energy person wok by phone with a surigate. And I turn down faculty jobs at good psycho schools.
 
There is an order within chaos. I only trade when this is decipherable and it has been working for over a decade, trading almost every trading day of each year since 1998.

100% objective system, with each position managed based on how it set up. Specific rules, not "gun slinging".

I would argue that people cannot deal with the fact that creating a working system takes a massive amount of effort so they go on claiming that it's not possible and bashing anyone who talks of TA and a working system. Just envy and bitterness from these people if you ask me...

Quote from marketsurfer:

history is filled with traders who have made huge scores due to pure luck-- just like any pseudo random based reward system. You and the other TA believers simply can not deal with randomness, therefore you build a false construct to make things appear orderly-- breaking this down will be your first step to understanding how markets really work. Until then, your market view is based on delusion-- with any success attributed to money management techniques. see tharp, niederhoffer and Gallacher for further info.

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