Denise Shull Says Tape Reading Art is Real and Alive

Quote from river:

1. Where are we in the pattern?

2. What is coming up next?

3. How fast is it changing?

4. ???????

-river

You can't answer 4. because you left out the context:

Quote from jack hershey:

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Write in the four Q's that need asking.

1.


2.


3.


4.

Answer them and join Netto, Anderson , Morge, etc......

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Answer:

4. How can I package and sell this applesauce to the fishes?
 
Quote from river:

1. Where are we in the pattern?

2. What is coming up next?

3. How fast is it changing?

4. ???????

-river

thanks for responding.

Your are a trader in a trade.

My suggestion to the potential trader was oriented to the Q's that eliminate people from trading, i, e., ID'ing the losers groups chunk by chunk. Some will always slip through each filter.

You Q 4 would be to get the specific EE straight from the group of 35 possibilities. It is the filter/funnel type Q. What EE's have been eliminated? This works for me.

I arranged the EE'ss in an OOE, so I only have to look at one subset at any time. This is very relaxing. As an acceptable EE makes it down through the filter funnel, at some point all you do is look for it to drop out the funnel bottom.

Here is my first Q.

What maths does the market dictate?

Before computers, markets looked different.

Getting into the FI was a narrow gauntlet of rich people talking to rich people. Cohorts got in.

Today, in this Depression there are dominos that have to fall to get us out.

At Brookings Institute an assemblage occurred. It was fun to watch. The cohort crowd thought they were gong to discuss one thing but it turned out they were not even in the ball park.

Choosing the mathematics is first and formost.

The FI didn't do it right. And the meeting at Brookings got some real lessons across about the dominos.

The out of the box answer is logic and logic materializes in Boolean Algebra.

Tools revolve around criteria, filters, functions, rulkes, strategies and operators are often the subset most common for these tools.

It is tough for the potential trader to even get to see the markets much less go to a place where he has little or no education.

The model I like best of how the potential trader can across the starting line is autism. In one evening, a potential trader can see a movie. The potential trader can look at a person who fits right in the the 95% loser pile of potential traders.

we see in this thread two people mentioned Denise and Flavia. They handle people with headaches who are willing to pay them to sort their emotions into piles. Both are women.

The movie is about a woman and she has to handle men. She does and they look pretty stupid in what they do.

Denise and Flavia are handling cows on the way to their deaths. They do not get cured; they get maintained until it is all over.

So get a movie, Plan on just watching it to learn about your self and, in particular, your mind.

Et is watching Mr. Nate die. He has his half ass Denises' and Flavia's. His mind is not penetrable as he tells it.

You get the movie and begin to see a child. Be the child. Be the hero like she is.

See "The Temple Grandin Story".

Choose Boolean Algebra and choose Carnap's logic.
 
Quote from TheMagican:

Ok,so by now you should be able to write a formula in a match's box,no matter how many level of sophistication it gets.Yes,I understand why you avoid disclose it publicly.Id do the same.

In a relaxed way, I am responding to you.

I could take MR Nate and even you through to expert in less than two weeks.

You turned down an ATS.

An ATS would have been on your screeen doing everthing and making your money only bigger and bigger.

your reason for not "wanting" it was you didn't "need" it. You want your freedom to do what you want.

You have your freedom.

It includes posting.

Try to post your first contribution to others.

Or think before you post.

Look at me for a moment. What do I do?

I go to where people are. I exchange with them from that place.

Then, sometimes I suggest that they move from where they are to a better place (where I have spent time).

At the beginning in ET, for me, there were 7 posts like yours to 1 post like mine. The ratio is beetter now.
 
Quote from jack hershey:

In a relaxed way, I am responding to you.

I could take MR Nate and even you through to expert in less than two weeks.

You turned down an ATS.

An ATS would have been on your screeen doing everthing and making your money only bigger and bigger.

your reason for not "wanting" it was you didn't "need" it. You want your freedom to do what you want.

You have your freedom.

It includes posting.

Try to post your first contribution to others.

Or think before you post.

I gave a couple of clues to a veeeeery skilled programmer,-kick-ass,once!I didn't receive any letter from him since then-he didn't reply.Semi-ATS would be great as I said in the reply.

P.S.If I had the skills,I'd code every market occasion on every bar type drop-down menu on every timeframe available.
 
Quote from Jack Hershey:

A wall is a mathematical statistically derived first derivative answer which is a term in a mathematics called calculus.

Huh? First derivative of what? A wall is just the dynamic largest size of resting limit orders.


If there are more orders at a value than the velocity of trading, then the people who made the mistake of placing their orders too far back in FIFO get screwed.

Huh? What is the velocity of trading?
 
Quote from jack hershey:

Later, as you become more skilled, you will find other displays that are much more powerful All form the advent of the computer processing data. I could list 10 or 12.

In addition to charts? Do you mean volume, T&S, DOM, analyzing other markets etc.?
 
Quote from jack hershey:


You Q 4 would be to get the specific EE straight from the group of 35 possibilities. It is the filter/funnel type Q. What EE's have been eliminated? This works for me.

I arranged the EE'ss in an OOE, so I only have to look at one subset at any time. This is very relaxing. As an acceptable EE makes it down through the filter funnel, at some point all you do is look for it to drop out the funnel bottom.


I recall you mentioning this large number of unique "end effects" several times in the past several months. I also recall attempting, in vain, to figure out what these 35 end effects were.

I believe there is a subset of EE when the pattern has not completed--FBO's, and a subset where the pattern has completed.

If the specifics of each EE are important (you seem to be suggesting they are) could you offer any more hints on how to proceed in order to identify the 35?

Quote from jack hershey:



See "The Temple Grandin Story".


It was a very good movie.

The main take away of the movie related to trading, for me, was "I think in pictures".

-river
 
Quote from cornixforex:

In addition to charts? Do you mean volume, T&S, DOM, analyzing other markets etc.?

I am a friendly guy.

You are a newbie and a psychologist.

Open the files of your clients. They have never seen the markets.

Here is the basic situation: the conditions and the context of "knowing that you know". Your clients will give you, collectively, the 70 items you want to have.

Mathematically they are called "degrees of freedom".

Think of one of the places I live part time: HI.

A hot spot pushes liquid mass up from a point. The crust moves north then moves NW. Slow or faster.

An island chain appears.

These symbolize the initial DIRECT degrees of freedom of data coming from a market. They stream data (6 to 8) that is used to build the other degrees of freedom of the market (about 70).

Call these other indirect degrees of freedom villages on the islands. Each village has a name and it works well with other villages. Usually the villages are close together. They use direct degrees of freedom as ingredients to construct mechanisms (criteria, filters, functions, rules, strategies, and reference libraries). As yet you have not set foot on an island to go to any of the villages to see the human activity there (degrees of freedom created).

You have a mind. It has a spectrum of knowledge and moreso a lot of empty unused space.. Its basis of functioning is "neuroscience". Groups of minds work on the basis of psychology (a quasi science.)

Unknowingly, you have bounced around and gained an improper belief system for doing your work and play. So you help people with minds that are also out of kilter.

6 to 8 degrees of freedom originate from the markets and are slowly piped to the villages on various islands. The Direct degrees of freedom also make it to the other islands..

Villages create about 70 degrees of freedom and this includes the direct degrees of freedom.

Neuroscience works as is found in the literature. Some grouping of thoughts, but mostly thinking serially and WITHOUT an internal software to guide it. All short tem memory not much long term memory.

Your mind is typical since it is not differentiated and your beliefs cannot form a spectrum of relatable knowledge for trading in markets.

The participants in markets are not equal, money sizes them. There is a transient chicken feed population.

With this scope and bounds stated above. Here is how taking the full offer of the market works.

The mind of the expert "knows it knows" at all times. The simple mechanism is to use parts of the spectrum of full mental differentiation at the right place to know from whence to go forward at all times.

I call this steer and focus. In any locus (village) you arrive at, you go to the information of the few degrees of freedom that make up the bundle your neuroscience is handling.

Every 300 seconds, on a five minute bar this takes place several times and a lap in processing a fact is about 10 to 100 milliseconds. In HI you go from island to island and when on an island you go the the propr village.

Lets use a bar on a day and go through naming the bar. All bars have specific names.

First, you check the sub set of the degrees of freedom created to see if the forming bar is a repeat. At the beginning you check a subset, as always and find the bar has a name called WAIT.

Wait is an OR'ing of 8 cases of a RDBMS. All humans have RDBMS's. Any one of the cases is True. So the bar is named WAIT at its beginning.

Maybe you can read these sentences. That is a True condition. Maybe your beliefs cannot let you read these sentences; that is a False condition.

If there are NO trues in any of the WAIT constiuents, then you are in NOT Wait and you steer and focus on the "repeat True or False. A false lets your steer and focus on the possiblitiy to be examined when the repeat is false. It is test B (you could not undrstand all of B testing). But you can understand what happens if it is false. When such, you finish the 300 seconds of attention to naming the bar by performing an event of two choices based on the work of differnt villagers.

At any rate, you decided the trend was continuing or it came to an end at a percise moment and the moment had a name (If so it was pne of 35 finite name choices).

All of this I did to set you straight on where you are in the finite scheme of things.

Psychologists deal with the aspect of an individual's behavior in his group. Anyone seeing a psychologist regarding trading is in the "learning failure" group and the psychologist easily can see that his beliefs are incompatable with succeeding and, furthermore, these believes cannot be erased (or put into two piles and ingoring one pile because not enough processing time is available since not enough knowledge about processing can ever be transferred case by case (case mening a failing personage)

Learning how to learn is the basic place for potential traders to begin their brief tour of trading. If they can afford it, psychologists give them reasons to quit. Catalyzing quitting is the psychologist's job.

Make a list of the degrees of freedom your client mention. When you have about 70, you have the picture. I have mentioned all of them at this point in my past posts. I also have done the documents on putting all these pieces together in the correct manner to take the full offer in several methods of successful "takings".
 
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