This is total bs and there will be NO prosecution. What a travesty.
Demoncrats raid Mar-A-Largo to stop Trump because they do not have a candidate
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Let's not confuse the events;
https://www.justice.gov/usao-ct/pr/...d-fisa-application-during-crossfire-hurricane
The "perjury" was adding "not a source" to a email address.
Okay, we are not going to do a remedial review of that case. I am well aware of what went on.
You summarize it in a way that seeks to minimize the impact of his deliberate alteration of the application for a warrant. He altered text to state that Carter Page was not a government source and not working for government in various contacts with various individuals. Which was not only false but led to years of government persecution and attempted prosecution of Carter Page. The FISA court was absolutely livid and various DOJ officials, including McCabe testified that they would never have signed off on the fisa warrant.
Not going to replay all that. The warrants were issued upon fraudulent representations. And the FISA court is convinced of that as well.
Focus on the current DOJ disaster at Mar-A-Lago. The other stuff has been beaten to death. Most observes came away from it understanding that when the DOJ is on a political witchhunt that requires extra scrutiny of their actions. And indeed it does.
No, it does not tell you how the evidence can be used to discover other crimes. It merely specifies what crime is being alleged in order to get a search warrant. Prosecutors always seek the easiest shot at getting the warrant, if it allows them to gather the same material that may be productive for a fishing expedition on other crimes.
Why are you acting so dumb on this?
Totally related if the question is whether the DOJ acts with political motive in making representations to the courts.
Same DOJ in both places. Work with that a little.
The DOJ launched an entire Russia, Russia, Russia scam and Mueller investigation upon totally bogus and political motivated representations. Including, but not limited to, the fact that Hillary's attorney met with the DOJ and denied that he was connected to any campaign and then the next day billed Hillary's campaign for his time at that meeting. Now, the astute ones will argue that that attorney was found not guilty in a DC court (all dems are). But look at what his defense was. His defense was that it was so well known that he was a Clinton operative that there was no perjury or fraud because the DOJ knew what was going on. He argued that the DOJ was in on the ruse and scam by willingly playing dumb. Nice.
Why do you say “in time?” Do you know some non-public information or are just wishful thinking?
Ohh I’m sure the search warrant for MAR A LARGO was written in crayon and say orange man bad.
I know what is normally required on a search warrant. 1. Statutes of suspected crimes committed 2. Details of what is expected to be seized and 3. Where specifically will be searched I.e. bedroom, safe, etc. Also warrants typically have a receipt or “return” of the items collected for the courts review and the target’s records.
If Trump released what he had we would have a much better understanding of what they are looking at him for and what they seized.
That’s pretty much as good as it is getting. However, I am sure for a former president this warrant is extensive and detailed. There’s no way they did the bare minimum here.
You know you bring up a good point of discussion.
Trump is most likely the greatest violator of confidentiality laws and the presidential records act ever with this fiasco. We are talking a small storage unit worth of classified information he tried to steal buuuuuut will he get prosecuted is a legitimate question.
In my opinion that really depends on what his intentions were with the documents. If it was for personal gain or to cover up a crime then he should be prosecuted but if it’s just him fucking around and trying to hide embarrassing stuff like his weight or secret service reports about Melania cheating on him let it go.
The elephant in the room that you like to go out around is why the government did not just issue a subpoena for the known boxes and material. There are many, many, many pundits and lefty legal commentators that know and acknowledge that that is the normal go-to approach. Even with Nixon and the tapes they issued a subpoena rather than do a raid. You want to earn your potato by arguing that he was about to destroy or abscond with them and all of that, but no one believes that. But have at it anyway. Your instructions require it.
It was just another Roger Stone or Paul Manafort swat team type of home invasion with helicoptors flying overhead and fifty police cruisers with flashing lights. With Roger Stone they even had a patrol boat in the river in case he tried to swim across or something. It is all political theater and bullshit. If you just issued a subpoena to either one of them their lawyer would have contacted the FBI and made arrangements for their surrender.
We will see a lot of this type of theatrics coming up with the army of IRS going out to audit the left's political enemies. "Dear Mr. Smith, you were recently observed walking while wearing a MAGA hat and thus we have scheduled an audit of your taxes on August 24. You have the right to have your accountant attend and your lawyer. As a helpful suggestion, you may wish to put your house on the market to pay for anticipated legal bills while we are still in the summer season. Have a nice day."
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