Do you have stats on the number of amputations from COVID patients with co-morbidities?
With hundreds of millions sick, there has to be some empirical evidence to support this theory, right?
Do you have stats on the number of amputations from COVID patients with co-morbidities?
With hundreds of millions sick, there has to be some empirical evidence to support this theory, right?
So no data showing the number of patients with amputations with co-morbidities outlined?
Edit:
I find lots of articles like this one:
https://www.tctmd.com/news/covid-19-patients-arterial-leg-thromboses-risk-amputation-and-death
Showing where patients with pre-existing vascular conditions are exacerbated with COVID 19 (though studies are small). So I go back to the diabetes or other vascular co-morbidity as the driving factor. But hey! Post another Dr. Evil gif. Those are always hilarious!
Let's be honest, every tailored made study I'd post you'd dismiss anyway
Not at all. If you posted an empirical study that showed that people without co-morbidity had a significant (5% or higher) risk of amputation because of clots and or vascular degeneration,. I would yield that you have a valid concern and this is a cause to be worried about.
But you won't, because that isn't true. And that's why you won't (can't) post such a study.
So, it is likely that the individual you posted about (Bailey) had some significant additional pathology besides COVID that may have been exacerbated by COVID, but was caused by something else. Which is what I said originally.
This doesn't mean that people with vulnerabilities should be dismissed because of them. But they should be taking extra care to keep themselves safe. I've been saying this all along.
However it is not my responsibility to keep them extra safe.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...ial-recovers-from-severe-covid-19-friend-says
White House Official Recovers From Severe Covid-19, Friend Says
Crede Bailey spent three months in hospital with disease
Friend created GoFundMe account with details of illness
A White House official who fell ill with Covid-19 in September is recovering after three months in the hospital, though he lost his right foot and lower leg in his battle against the virus, according to a friend.
Crede Bailey, the director of the White House security office, was the most severely ill among dozens of Covid-19 cases known to be connected to the White House. Bailey’s family has asked the White House not to publicize his condition, and President Donald Trump has never publicly acknowledged his illness.
Bailey’s friends have raised more than $30,000 for his rehabilitation through a GoFundMe account. The White House declined to say whether Trump has contributed to the effort.
“Crede beat COVID-19 but it came at a significant cost: his big toe on his left foot as well as his right foot and lower leg had to be amputated,” Dawn McCrobie, who organized the GoFundMe effort for Bailey, wrote Dec. 7.
Bailey is now at a rehabilitation center and will be fitted for a prosthetic leg in the coming months, she wrote.
“His family has staggering medical bills from a hospital stay of 2+ months and still counting in the ICU and a long road ahead in rehab before he can go home,” McCrobie wrote Nov. 13, when she created the account. “When he does make it home there will be major changes necessary to deal with his new, and permanent, disability.”
Two people familiar with Bailey’s situation confirmed that McCrobie is a friend. They asked not to be identified because Bailey’s family has tried to keep his illness private.
McCrobie did not respond to messages and White House spokespeople declined to comment. Efforts to reach Bailey and multiple members of his family by phone, e-mail and social media have been unsuccessful.
After this story was published, McCrobie updated the GoFundMe page to advise Bailey’s friends to ignore messages from journalists. “Per Crede’s wishes, please let the media tell their story without your input,” she wrote.
Bailey’s office handles credentialing for access to the White House complex and works closely with the U.S. Secret Service on security measures. Bailey was known on the compound as a strong Trump supporter.
The president has repeatedly minimized the risk from Covid-19 since the beginning of the pandemic, both before and after he was hospitalized with the disease Oct. 2-5.
Doctors are still learning about the extent to which the coronavirus can damage the body, but loss of blood flow is one possible consequence. The virus is known to attack the vascular system and can cause deadly blood clots.
When she created the GoFundMe account, McCrobie wrote that “Crede will NOT be happy I’ve done this as he is a proud man who is the first to help everyone else but would never ask for help himself.”
She updated the post Dec. 7 with more details about his condition. He “is blown away by your generosity,” she said to donors.
“His house will need to be renovated to accommodate his disability; ramps to get in/out of the house, the bathroom shower will have to be modified, handrails will have to be installed, etc. etc.,” she wrote.
He’ll also need a new vehicle that can accommodate a wheelchair and that can be modified so the gas pedal can be operated with Bailey’s left leg, she wrote. “I could go on and on but you get the picture - there are a lot of adjustments ahead!”
Is that why NY economic numbers are so hopelessly dismal now? Because "business can function with the right protocols"?
Or protests, of course. Can't forget protests.
Ok. I'm honestly not worried about getting it. So I go on with my life. You're not going to see me at bars or massive house parties or the like because I'm too old for that shit.
But I'm not going to curtail my life because of panic overblown by media and whoever else has an interest in the narrative. And short of you showing me clear data that says me or my family is at risk for prolonged or serious illness, you're not going to change my perception of it no matter what you say.
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Are you trying to claim that a good number of people who had COVID did not lose limbs. Or are you simply saying that they only lost limbs because they have a co-morbidity --- and therefore it is their fault and they don't really count.
Care to explain the case of actor Nick Cordero who first lost his leg and then died from COVID. He had no known -existing conditions or co-morbidities. And he is just one example of a healthy person who lost a limb from COVID --- in his case 18 days after being placed in ICU.
Nick Cordero, Broadway actor who battled COVID-19, has died at age 41, wife says
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/nick-cordero-death-broadway-actor-age-41-coronavirus/
Covid only spreads when people don't follow the rules...plain and simple. its a virus and needs another body and transfer to happen. If people stopped ignoring CDC guidelines, the spread would be contained and limited by now.
Not at all. If you posted an empirical study that showed that people without co-morbidity had a significant (5% or higher) risk of amputation because of clots and or vascular degeneration,. I would yield that you have a valid concern and this is a cause to be worried about.
But you won't, because that isn't true. And that's why you won't (can't) post such a study.
So, it is likely that the individual you posted about (Bailey) had some significant additional pathology besides COVID that may have been exacerbated by COVID, but was caused by something else. Which is what I said originally.
This doesn't mean that people with vulnerabilities should be dismissed because of them. But they should be taking extra care to keep themselves safe. I've been saying this all along.
However it is not my responsibility to keep them extra safe.