Democrats now officially pushing transaction tax according to Erin Burnet

Quote from traderbigt:

Ironic that the tax will wipe out most the small business types like many of us with less than 250K size accounts for day trading. It will affect the super rich the least because A) they can afford it and still make green and B) connected exchange members will get their exemptions in exchange for lobbyist cash kick backs.

The idea WIDENS the gap between rich and poor, it does not "help the little guy" or punish evil speculators.

I truly hate these socialist corporate welfare alliance douche bags, they are ruining my life in the most personal ways imaginable...


I believe the actual language exempts trades of less than $100,000 from the tax.

The authors seem unaware that exchanges pay the Prime Brokers as Supplemental Liquidity Providers, and that the Prime Brokers are exempt from most fees, and from settlement delivery deadlines.

I participated in a Q&A on this with several members. They are open to raising the amount where the tax takes affect. They intend to shape the tax to target large players, and make high frequency trading uneconomical.
They also see it as a way to track and follow the market. They also talked about a .01%tax, so the amount of the tax is not set in stone. The paper trail seems to be the real objective.

They seem to have the support of maybe 14 countries or so in the G20 give or take.
 
Yep. This tax will drive the spread back to the date of fractions. The smallest spread you will see will probably be 1/8th, or 12 or 13 cents. Back to the stone age we go. <font color = "red"><b> Change you can believe in.</font color></b>

Quote from KINGOFSHORTS:

Wont work.

Do you think a 20-50 cent Bid/ask spread and very very low liquidity will somehow be exempt for 401Ks

And when dividend reinvest kicks in, that Spread wide enough to drive a truck through will impact the same 401K by making every purchase much more expensive?

That .25% tax will get passed down to the average joe but amplified 10x.
 
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Actually there will be a way around this tax. Obviously this will be a pay before you play tax and not something you will have to pay at the end of the year. When NFA said they were changing margin requirements at the end of this month for forex, my broker offered all clients the opportunity to move their accounts to the UK and they would get to keep the same margin they are used to. The same will happen for stocks. People will just start opening accounts in other parts of the world to trade stocks in other countries. Probably india.
 
Quote from R. Raskolnikov:

All it takes is one major/semi major country NOT to associate themselves with the transact tax and any "global" passing of it will immediately have THAT country in line to become the next great financial center.

Of course, anything is possible but it stands to reason that, if this thing truly needs a global consensus, that seems all but impossible or not likely anytime soon.

Singapore and Dubai will not institute a transaction tax. If the major players did (US & Britain) business would gravitate to these jurisdictions. And I know that they (Lee Kuan Yew, et al) would LOVE to pick up the business NYC and Chicago would lose if this ever went into effect and move Singapore from back of the G20 field to a more prominent role. (I have relatives from and in Singapore and I hear all the time how they want to be a bigger player.)

I happen to be one of those in the "it won't happen" camp because there is too much AGAINST this becoming enacted, contrary to the growing chorus from the left coast. Main of which is that that the national politicians in these financial centers are Democratic. Both Schumer (D-NY) and Menendez (D-NJ) have come out against this tax as they know it would destroy the tax base in their constituent areas. And I am sure the Chicago politicians feel the same. (Can you also imagine the damage to the commercial real estate market if this ever came to pass? It would give Houston in the '80s a run for their money!)

I really think tho that they are angling for something else, like maybe higher cap gains tax on stocks etc, maybe indexing it to income rates.
 
When this story first broke a few months back I said you will see this come to fruition. I said the democrats will find a way to tax ANYTHING and EVERYTHING they possibly can and this will gain momentum. And I still say This is going to happen for several reasons.
The politicians want more tax payer dollars coming into their hands.
They are spending like crazy and will tax like hell to pay for it all.
Democrats will bleed taxpayers dry any chance they get.
Wallstreet is in ill favor with the general public.
There is no opposition to this, no organized political group is organized to oppose this tax.
It will happen
 
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