Quote from Brandonf:
One hundred years ago homosexuality was clearly seen as wrong, you could go to jail for it, the same for molesting a child.
Wow, it is truly amazing that someone living in a Western country could be so incredibly misinformed. I'm not going to bother instructing you on the worldwide history of homosexual behaviour over the past 3000 years; suffice it to say that I can tell you something about yourself right now - you have never travelled more than 500 miles from the place of your birth, and reading books has never been something you've had any interest in. This is clear from your spelling errors, which pepper your posts. I am sorry to bring this up, but time and time again , we see these views being propounded by those who seem to have a less than complete education. You cannot blame us for trying, in desperation, to find a reason for these monstrous beliefs. I truly do not mean to demean you with this - it is just that we see it time and time and time again, over and over. We can be forgiven for suspecting a correlation.
Quote from Brandonf:
Today the "informed" have told us that a the choice to engage in gay sex and love should be celabrated [SIC] because people are born gay and they are just being who they are. Well, pedophiles claim they are born as pedophiles too, that they have no choice in the matter, it's just the way they are. When will I be told to celabrate [SIC] them for having the courage to "come out"? I hope never.
Again... ad nauseam...the fact that homosexuality is not learned behaviour does not mean that anyone who shows up at the door of the courthouse claiming that they have a genetic predisposition to this or that behaviour will be given carte blanche. For the life of me I cannot see what is so difficult about this. I said before and I will say again - the taking of an innocent life will never be legally condoned. The theft of personal property will never be legalized. The rape of a 2 year old infant by a sweating 32 year old pedophile will never be legalized. The fact that you are asking the question means that you consider homosexuality to be immoral in the same sense as child rape. It is a fallacy to say 'Since homosexuality was once immoral (in this country) and now isn't, won't child rape be next?' No, because
1. child rape is now and always will be universally condemned, whereas homosexuality is anything but. Sex with a child has been condemned in most cultures historically speaking, whereas homosexuality has clearly not. Historically, sex with a child has been tied to ideas relating to the acceptability of early marriage. The modern view of age of majority is consistent among 80% of the world's population and will never change going forward, just as a woman's right to vote will never be rescinded.
2. Homosexuality NEVER WAS IMMORAL. It was PROSCRIBED. It was THOUGHT TO BE immoral. In fact it never was. If you claim otherwise, you can go and join the other moral relativists on this site, with the head troll as your leader.
Letting women vote was also THOUGHT TO BE ridiculous. Bloodletting for fever was also THOUGHT TO BE effective.
The fact that you even ask the question is indicative of your programming, and what I am realizing now is that you actually can't see it. You can make reference to the fact that you were programmed, but you can't see that your views are a result of it. Fascinating, really.
Anyhow, this is pointless. Just remember, if you're one of those homophobes who is homophobic because, although he has always identified himself as straight, he is having feelings of attraction to men (possibly to a close friend who is gay), please; it is unlikely that anything will happen if you experiment. Just don't let any members of your congregation find out. Perhaps do it in a different city.
