Democrats "Better Deal" Platform - hand me a barf bag
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It was extremely weak.
Here is an example of what WOULD work: Give the people a manifesto of what you stand for, point for point. You can download it here http://www.businessinsider.com/corbyn-promises-radical-agenda-in-leaked-labour-manifesto-2017-5
Here is the response he got:
Here is the response he got:
Democrats platform in the US? Five lines. Fits on 1/4 page.
Labour Party in England? Twenty Pages.
Labour Party in England? Twenty Pages.
Actually the Democratic platform in the U.S. is 45 pages long (50 including TOC & cover). However it is completely full of crap and lacks any reasonable messaging.
http://s3.amazonaws.com/uploads.democrats.org/Downloads/2016_DNC_Platform.pdf
http://s3.amazonaws.com/uploads.democrats.org/Downloads/2016_DNC_Platform.pdf
Let's list some of the primary sections:
- Ending Systemic Racism
- Closing the Racial Wealth Gap
- Promoting Arts and Culture
- Honoring Indigenous Tribal Nations
- Honoring the People of the Territories
- Securing Statehood for Washington, D.C
- Securing Environmental and Climate Justice
- Fighting for the People of Puerto Rico
- Supporting Historically Black Colleges and Universities and Minority-Serving Institutions
- Global Climate Leadership
- Protect Our Values - Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, and Transgender People
- Protect Our Values - Refugees
- Closing Guantánamo Bay
- International Labor
It show the failure in messaging of Democratic party and why they need significant reform to win at the national level.
Lets take a look at the 2016 Republican platform. Starts with a preamble and only has 6 sections:
https://prod-cdn-static.gop.com/media/documents/DRAFT_12_FINAL[1]-ben_1468872234.pdf
To get a sense of the vast difference you don't need to look further than the Opener and Preamble in the Republican platform which the Democrats totally lack.
The opener:
We dedicate this platform with admiration and gratitude
To all who stand strong in the face of danger
So that the American people may be protected against it —
The men and women of our military,
of our law enforcement, and the first responders
of every community in our land —
And to their families.
Here is the Preamble:
Preamble
With this platform, we the Republican Party
reaffirm the principles that unite us in a common purpose.
and now as exemplar of liberty for the world to see.
by their Creator with inalienable rights of life, liberty,
and the pursuit of happiness.
and the rights of the people — must be preserved
uncompromised for future generations.
are invincible.
best stewards of our country’s God-given natural
resources.
America safe. We seek friendship with all peoples
and all nations, but we recognize and are prepared
to deal with evil in the world.
to join us and shows the path to a stronger, safer,
and more prosperous America.
For the past 8 years America has been led in the
wrong direction.
paycheck are struggling, sacrificing, and suffering.
Americans have earned and deserve a strong
and healthy economy.
our friends no long trust us.
People want and expect an America that is the
most powerful and respected country on the face
of the earth.
numbers, equipment, and benefits by a Commander
in Chief who treats the Armed Forces and our
veterans as a necessary inconvenience.
have replaced it with a costly and complicated
scheme that limits choices and takes away our
freedom.
the American people.
even our religious institutions. They have directly
attacked the production of American energy and
the industry-related jobs that have sustained families
and communities.
does not understand. He defies the laws of the
United States by refusing to enforce those with
which he does not agree. And he appoints judges
who legislate from the bench rather than apply the
law.
of this platform affirm our trust in the people, our
faith in their judgment, and our determination to
help them take back their country.
control and the power to make their own decisions
about what’s best for themselves and their families
and communities.
to the constitutional rights of every American. And
a manual for the kind of sustained growth that will
bring opportunity to all those on the sidelines of our
society.
country can fulfill its promise. We earn that help by
recommitting ourselves to the ideas and ideals that
are the true greatness of America.
- Restoring the American Dream
- A Rebirth of Constitutional Government
- America’s Natural Resources: Agriculture, Energy, and the Environment
- Government Reform
- Great American Families, Education, Healthcare, and Criminal Justice
- America Resurgent
https://prod-cdn-static.gop.com/media/documents/DRAFT_12_FINAL[1]-ben_1468872234.pdf
To get a sense of the vast difference you don't need to look further than the Opener and Preamble in the Republican platform which the Democrats totally lack.
The opener:
We dedicate this platform with admiration and gratitude
To all who stand strong in the face of danger
So that the American people may be protected against it —
The men and women of our military,
of our law enforcement, and the first responders
of every community in our land —
And to their families.
Here is the Preamble:
Preamble
With this platform, we the Republican Party
reaffirm the principles that unite us in a common purpose.
We believe in American exceptionalism.
We believe the United States of America is
unlike any other nation on earth.We believe the United States of America is
We believe America is exceptional because of
our historic role — first as refuge, then as defender,and now as exemplar of liberty for the world to see.
We affirm — as did the Declaration of
Independence: that all are created equal, endowedby their Creator with inalienable rights of life, liberty,
and the pursuit of happiness.
We believe in the Constitution as our founding
document.We believe the Constitution was written not as
a flexible document, but as our enduring covenant.We believe our constitutional system — limited
government, separation of powers, federalism,and the rights of the people — must be preserved
uncompromised for future generations.
We believe political freedom and economic
freedom are indivisible.When political freedom and economic freedom
are separated — both are in peril; when united, theyare invincible.
We believe that people are the ultimate resource
— and that the people, not the government, are thebest stewards of our country’s God-given natural
resources.
As Americans and as Republicans we wish for
peace — so we insist on strength. We will makeAmerica safe. We seek friendship with all peoples
and all nations, but we recognize and are prepared
to deal with evil in the world.
Based on these principles, this platform is an
invitation and a roadmap. It invites every Americanto join us and shows the path to a stronger, safer,
and more prosperous America.
This platform is optimistic because the
American people are optimistic.This platform lays out — in clear language — the
path to making America great and united again.For the past 8 years America has been led in the
wrong direction.
Our economy has become unnecessarily weak
with stagnant wages. People living paycheck topaycheck are struggling, sacrificing, and suffering.
Americans have earned and deserve a strong
and healthy economy.
Our standing in world affairs has declined
significantly — our enemies no longer fear us andour friends no long trust us.
People want and expect an America that is the
most powerful and respected country on the face
of the earth.
The men and women of our military remain
the world’s best. The have been shortchanged innumbers, equipment, and benefits by a Commander
in Chief who treats the Armed Forces and our
veterans as a necessary inconvenience.
The President and the Democratic party have
dismantled Americans’ system of healthcare. Theyhave replaced it with a costly and complicated
scheme that limits choices and takes away our
freedom.
The President and the Democratic party have
abandoned their promise of being accountable tothe American people.
They have nearly doubled the size of the
national debt.They refuse to control our borders but try
to control our schools, farms, businesses, andeven our religious institutions. They have directly
attacked the production of American energy and
the industry-related jobs that have sustained families
and communities.
The President has been regulating to death
a free market economy that he does not like anddoes not understand. He defies the laws of the
United States by refusing to enforce those with
which he does not agree. And he appoints judges
who legislate from the bench rather than apply the
law.
We, as Republicans and Americans, cannot
allow this to continue. That is why the many sectionsof this platform affirm our trust in the people, our
faith in their judgment, and our determination to
help them take back their country.
This means removing the power from unelected,
unaccountable government.This means relieving the burden and expense of
punishing government regulations.And this means returning to the people and
the states the control that belongs to them. It is thecontrol and the power to make their own decisions
about what’s best for themselves and their families
and communities.
This platform is many things: A handbook for
returning decision-making to the people. A guideto the constitutional rights of every American. And
a manual for the kind of sustained growth that will
bring opportunity to all those on the sidelines of our
society.
Every time we sing, “God Bless America,” we
are asking for help. We ask for divine help that ourcountry can fulfill its promise. We earn that help by
recommitting ourselves to the ideas and ideals that
are the true greatness of America.
Republican Platform:
1) tax cuts for the rich
2) more corporate welfare
3) increase military spending/ create more wars
4) use the dog whistle early and often
1) tax cuts for the rich
2) more corporate welfare
3) increase military spending/ create more wars
4) use the dog whistle early and often
Greatest Democratic President in American history, and arguably the greatest President in US, period. But there is no argument that he was the most popular POTUS ever.
What a platform.If FDR or even LBJ were alive today and saw current US situation, they would instantly know what to do and the next day would go into action to legislate.
What a platform.If FDR or even LBJ were alive today and saw current US situation, they would instantly know what to do and the next day would go into action to legislate.
Democratic Platform:
Let's put in every inconceivable nonsense talking point dreamed up by identity politic groups into a indexed document and call it our platform.
Follow-up question: Why did we get our butts kicked so badly in the election?