Democrats are hypocrites

All states which do not have carry conceal laws
force homeowners to leave their guns at home
unattended in many cases.

You still need the broom. Your arguments are, pardon the pun,
shot down left and right.

Pull! Strike six.


peace

axeman



Quote from tampa:



Axie baby, unlike you, I don't have an attorney friend to turn to, so maybe you would be kind enough to cite the statute that forces a law abiding responsible gun owning citizen to leave his unattended loaded gun at home on a nightstand in a neighbor hood crawling with bad guys.

I would do a search on Google myself for the law, but I am having computer problems. Some nut case unplugged my cable modem carelessly wielding a broom...
 
LOL. Now you know more about the law than my
attorney buddies, even though you have failed
to cite anything to the contrary.

Classic. Or should I say, clueless.


peace

axeman


Quote from tampa:



Maybe you should get a better "attorney friend" - your legal problem would stem from causing a disturbance. You would be in just as much trouble if you shouted "cucumbers are good in a salad". It is not a matter of restricted speech - it's a matter of disturbing the peace.

Looks like it's back to the broom closet for ya, fella...
 
All states which do not have carry conceal laws
force homeowners to leave their guns at home
unattended in many cases.
axeman
________________________________

Great point!
 
And then tampax has the nerve to attempt to
blame the home owner for doing so!

LOL!.... I just don't get these bleeding hearts.
Can you say logically impaired? :D

peace

axeman


Quote from Doubter:

All states which do not have carry conceal laws
force homeowners to leave their guns at home
unattended in many cases.
axeman
________________________________

Great point!
 
Quote from axeman:

Tampa..... you are amazingly ignorant of reality.

It is a statistically measured fact that areas with liberalized
gun control laws have a lower percentage of break ins.

Need a source? Go read "Point Blank" written by
criminologist Gary Kleck.

You have constantly been destroyed in debates on
this thread. Hang it up already.


Oh wait.... you wont even debate your position.
YOU STILL HAVE FAILED TO BACKUP YOUR ORIGINAL
EMPTY ASSERTIONS.

Better get back to sweeping up all the tiny pieces
of your weak argument.


peace

axeman

Axie, Axie, Axie - what am I going to do with you.

First - the areas with "liberalized" gun laws tend to be low density, non-urban areas. Places with lots of open spaces, few places to hide, and few if any transients.

It's the geography and the lack of opportunity that keeps crime low. Not the number of gun nuts living there.

Thank you for telling me that I have "consistently been destroyed". Of course I assume that you are the one doing the destroying - am I correct? As a rule, the one doing the destroying need not inform the destroyed of his destruction. Unless of course it is done with wit, cleverness, and very slyly.
 
Quote from Doubter:

All states which do not have carry conceal laws
force homeowners to leave their guns at home
unattended in many cases.
axeman
________________________________

Great point!

Actually, it is anything but. No State forces a gun owner to leave an operational, loaded fire arm unattended. Only irresponsible gun owners do such things, and they do so without being able to blame the law for their carelessness.

My guess is that the reason you thought that it was a good point is because, like Axie, you yourself are an irresponsible person, scraping the bottom of the barrel in an effort to justify what you want to believe.
 
Everyone on this thread has consistently wrecked your arguments,not just me.


tampax:"It's the geography and the lack of opportunity that keeps crime low. Not the number of gun nuts living there."


Secondly... your wrong again. Dade country florida
has a population of 2.5 million, and was used as one
of the examples of assault and break in rates dramatically
DROPPING after liberalized gun laws were passed there.

Also.... other very populous areas such as Londan England
was used in comparisons to the united states and in general,
countries with strict gun control laws have a much higher
break in rate than american states, ESPECIALLY when
the occupants are home.

Also...since Gary Kleck IS a statistician, he was very careful
to compare apples with apples and oranges with oranges
in his book. He compared rural areas with rural areas,etc.

Your assertion is not only empty, it's completely false.


READ THE BOOK. The stats belay your ignorance of the subject.

Pull! Strike 7.



At least your consistent at getting your arguments shot down :D



peace

axeman


Quote from tampa:



Axie, Axie, Axie - what am I going to do with you.

First - the areas with "liberalized" gun laws tend to be low density, non-urban areas. Places with lots of open spaces, few places to hide, and few if any transients.

It's the geography and the lack of opportunity that keeps crime low. Not the number of gun nuts living there.

Thank you for telling me that I have "consistently been destroyed". Of course I assume that you are the one doing the destroying - am I correct? As a rule, the one doing the destroying need not inform the destroyed of his destruction. Unless of course it is done with wit, cleverness, and very slyly.
 
LOL! More personal attacks due to lack of a strong position.
Who is scraping here?

States DO have laws which prohibit citizens to take their
firearms with them, THEREFORE, they must leave them
at home.

Don't believe me? Try taking your firearm with you
EVERYWHERE you go, and let's see how far you get.
How about a court house?


What part of this simple logic do you not understand?


peace

axeman




Quote from tampa:



Actually, it is anything but. No State forces a gun owner to leave an operational, loaded fire arm unattended. Only irresponsible gun owners do such things, and they do so without being able to blame the law for their carelessness.

My guess is that the reason you thought that it was a good point is because, like Axie, you yourself are an irresponsible person, scraping the bottom of the barrel in an effort to justify what you want to believe.
 
Axie, it is clear that I am no match for you, and your cohorts. What a fool I have been to attempt to match wits with the likes of you. Is there any doubt that I have been out maneuvered, out smarted, and thoroughly discredited by your flawless logic and superior debating skills.

What a fool I have been to go up against a giant like you. Frankly, I don't know how I will ever live it down.



But just one more thing - was it the "more liberalized" gun laws in Metro Dade (how the hell you can make gun laws more liberal in Florida is beyond me), or the dramatic decrease in the illicit drug trafficking? (I'd also like to know who the hell thinks of the Miami metro area as "safe")

Oh never mind. I'll just shrink away to lick my wounds inflicted by my verbal joust with you.
 
"But just one more thing - was it the "more liberalized" gun laws in Metro Dade (how the hell you can make gun laws more liberal in Florida is beyond me),"


Kleck was comparing the stats BEFORE the current
liberalized gun laws existed, that's how.

The very next year, the stats showed a significant change.

You may assert that it was the decreased drug trafficing,
but the gun laws changed in 1987, and unlike Gary Kleck,
your assertion has not been backed up with hard statistical data.


Strike 8.


Here are some bandaids for your obvious debate wounds.
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:D


peace

axeman






Quote from tampa:

Axie, it is clear that I am no match for you, and your cohorts. What a fool I have been to attempt to match wits with the likes of you. Is there any doubt that I have been out maneuvered, out smarted, and thoroughly discredited by your flawless logic and superior debating skills.

What a fool I have been to go up against a giant like you. Frankly, I don't know how I will ever live it down.



But just one more thing - was it the "more liberalized" gun laws in Metro Dade (how the hell you can make gun laws more liberal in Florida is beyond me), or the dramatic decrease in the illicit drug trafficking? (I'd also like to know who the hell thinks of the Miami metro area as "safe")

Oh never mind. I'll just shrink away to lick my wounds inflicted by my verbal joust with you.
 
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