Democrats and Socialism

[CaptainObvious]

America is already socialist. There is no developed country that is not.

How to explain this to men with minds like children.. oh who are we kidding, they know perfectly well it is about a small change in the emphasis on exiting socialism. What is upsetting them is the use of the word which they were programmed to fear since the red scare. Loss in productivity is a fear (unfounded) however it hardly matters because due to the demographic bomb, by 2030 there will be few jobs that are not wiping the bottoms of senile seniors. CaptainObvious is a good example of this, imagine him in a decade.

The issue with Venezuela is Maduro has been getting support from Cuba and this has kept him propped up. Venezuela is Cuba's oil supply. They supply his body guards and doctors for hospitals (for the elite). Without doctors to treat the high officials and military officer's kids etc. Maduro would have been killed already.

What kind of government does Cuba have? The Castro family have run Cuba since the 50s. That is a dictatorship which runs a pseudo-communist system to supply enough to prevent revolution. Good hospitals and music schools. Solving Venezuela means tackling Cuban interference. Obama was doing that by normalization of relations, now there is nothing.

I just took a good dump this morning, care to help? You are right though, America is becoming more socialist every day. The government is the largest employer and getting larger all the time. So called entitlement programs will continue to grow making people ever more dependent on government. Stay patient comrade, victory isn't that far off all things considered.

 

[Slartibartfast]

I just took a good dump this morning, care to help? You are right though, America is becoming more socialist every day. The government is the largest employer and getting larger all the time. So called entitlement programs will continue to grow making people ever more dependent on government. Stay patient comrade, victory isn't that far off all things considered.

I'd love to help, I'll get my big yellow gloves. I've been thinking about investing in a care home and I always start at the bottom to understand the business.

You might want to look at the US military then. And the government is always the largest single employer in any country you fucking idiot

Ah providing adult day care for useless old men, what we live for.

 

[Cuddles]

Once again, let's look at the truth about Blue and Red states...

The concept that 'red' states are the 'moochers' is absurd. Let's eliminate military base spending, farm subsidies, and other non-welfare federal spending from the accounting.

yes, let's ignore the biggest welfare blankets and let's talk about welfare.

 

[Tsing Tao]

yes, let's ignore the biggest welfare blankets and let's talk about welfare.

You have to eliminate military bases. That isn't a benefit in welfare to the citizens of the state the base is in. You could argue there is slight increased economic activity, but you'd then have to include any federal infrastructure and other projects as well. It's not welfare.

 

[gwb-trading]

yes, let's ignore the biggest welfare blankets and let's talk about welfare.

80% of Farm subsidy money lands up in blue states via corporate farming. If the blue states love military bases so much --- then lets open one near New York City and anther near Boston. We will just bulldoze the homes of many liberals to put them up. The residents of these states can enjoy their military "welfare".

 

[exGOPer]

Once again, let's look at the truth about Blue and Red states...

The concept that 'red' states are the 'moochers' is absurd. Let's eliminate military base spending, farm subsidies, and other non-welfare federal spending from the accounting.

The red states do not really want the military bases that were forced on them. These bases take up large tracts of land that are useful for other economic purposes and require local money spent on policing & other services because they tend to be high crime / low income areas. Let's put a large military base in NYC or Boston - and bulldoze all the existing homes. The displaced residents can survive on the 80%+ of large farm subsidies that are sent to the owners of corporate farms who reside in blue states (but is seen as red state money for some reason).

Let's focus on federal welfare spending--defined here as childhood nutrition programs, food stamp programs, WIC benefits TANF benefits, and other similar benefits.

This article from USA Today "New Yorkers lead pack in government benefits" compiled data showing which states had the highest per capita expenditures for every type of government-provided benefit and blue states top the list and red states made up most of the bottom 10.

Top 10 - Most dependent on government aid
1 New York
2 West Virginia
3 Rhode Island
4 Maine
5 Pennsylvania
6 Massachusetts
7 Vermont
8 Kentucky
9 Michigan
10 Connecticut

Bottom 10 - Least dependent on government aid
41 South Dakota
42 Nebraska
43 Wyoming
44 Idaho
45 Georgia
46 Texas
47 Nevada
48 Virginia
49 Colorado
50 Utah

I have debunked this nonsense a dozen times.

New York PAYING for its OWN programs is not socialism - that's like saying you feeding your own kids with the money you earn is socialism.

Stop making these pathetic dumb arguments while being unable to backup this 'red states forced to run military bases'. The reason red states mooch is because their tax base is pathetic because of their uneducated populace.

Do you want citation because I have provided the same previously when you doled out the same lame excuses.

 

[Slartibartfast]

I have debunked this nonsense a dozen times.

New York PAYING for its OWN programs is not socialism - that's like saying you feeding your own kids with the money you earn is socialism.

Stop making these pathetic dumb arguments while being unable to backup this 'red states forced to run military bases'. The reason red states mooch is because their tax base is pathetic because of their uneducated populace.

Do you want citation because I have provided the same previously when you doled out the same lame excuses.

You will have to explain it 1000 times more because their minds don't hold on to anything that is not emotionally comforting.

 

[UsualName]

Speaking of democrats and socialism, the world’s most favorite curmudgeon, Senator Bernie beanpie Sanders won his primary last night, beating off his opponents attack that he was not a true democrat and is causing the party harm.

Sanders will now renounce the party nomination and run as an independent.

 

[Cuddles]

You have to eliminate military bases. That isn't a benefit in welfare to the citizens of the state the base is in. You could argue there is slight increased economic activity, but you'd then have to include any federal infrastructure and other projects as well. It's not welfare.

You're right, the biggest employer in the US which guaranteed a job to the majority of applicants regardless of qualifications is not a welfare program.

 

[Max E.]

LOL, its actually almost perfectly ironic..... the only chance Trump has to win in 2020 is if the Dems go completely off the deepend........ "Someone Queue Bernie Sanders and Antifa!"