Dem Senator Claims Russia Has Penetrated Florida Voter Registration Systems

[Tsing Tao]

Other than the 20+ indictments of Russians for interfering in the 2016 election that contain detailed and substantial information regarding who did what when, there isn't any.

Yeah, only because people made a narrative out of it while summarily ignoring all the interference from every other nation doing the exact same thing the Russians did (buying social media ads and the like). All because you liberals were so asshurt after Trump did the impossible.

Oh that's right, you're a libertarian.

 

[Tsing Tao]

The Republican administration and the governor who will be running against this democrat said this. Rubio, for instance has not denied the accusation. You would need to quote the original source and not some re-interpreted blog to find that however.

https://www.tampabay.com/florida-po...netrated-some-florida-voter-election-systems/

"We were requested by the chairman and vice chairman of the Intelligence Committee to let the supervisors of election in Florida know that the Russians are in their records," Nelson told the Timeson Wednesday. (audio below) He noted he is a member of the Armed Services subcommittee on cybersecurity.

A spokeswoman for U.S. Sen. Richard Burr, R-N.C., chairman of the Intelligence Committee, declined to comment. U.S. Sen. Mark Warner, D-Va., the vice chairman, said in a statement that "Russian activities continue to pose a threat to the security of our elections, as Senators Nelson and Rubio rightly pointed out in their letter. … I hope all state and local elections officials, including Florida's, will take this issue seriously."

Nelson took things farther on Wednesday. His account was partly corroborated by two county officials, who said they heard a similar warning at a private meeting with Rubio in May.

Rubio, a member of the Intelligence Committee, has raised alarms himself, and continues to express concern, though not as explicitly. Like Rubio, Nelson outlined a scenario in which hackers could alter voter registration records.

Hillsborough Supervisor of Elections Craig Latimer said Rubio made a similar reference to Russian intrusion during a meeting with election supervisors at the Orlando airport on May 30.

That private meeting was the result of Rubio's stated concerns that county election offices were not taking cybersecurity threats seriously enough, a claim the counties have strongly rejected.

Latimer said about eight or 10 elections officials were in the room. Rubio was asked which counties were targeted. "He looked around the room and said, 'I don't believe it's anybody here,'" Latimer said.

The supervisors at the Orlando meeting said Rubio told them to not discuss details with the news media, and none did, until Nelson's remarks surfaced Wednesday.

Doesn't matter who claims it. Without proof it's horseshit, just like the whole Trump colluded with Russia narrative. Sore losers, the lot of them.

Rubio "raised concerns". He didn't go out there saying he had proof of election tampering and hacking.

 

[Cuddles]

Doesn't matter who claims it. Without proof it's horseshit, just like the whole Trump colluded with Russia narrative. Sore losers, the lot of them.

Rubio "raised concerns". He didn't go out there saying he had proof of election tampering and hacking.

Interesting how he did not issue a strong denial to clear any misconceptions, instead discussed similar concerns in secrecy and issued a "gag order" .

 

[Tsing Tao]

Interesting how he did not issue a strong denial to clear any misconceptions, instead discussed similar concerns in secrecy and issued a "gag order" .

He also didn't talk about what he wants to dress up as for Halloween. So what?

A guy running for Governor says he has proof that elections are already infiltrated by Russians in an attempt to undermine the results as he is already trailing in the polls. DHS and the FEC investigate, find nothing. The candidate doesn't provide any proof or answer requests for evidence.

But instead of condemning the move as stupid, you focus on Rubio by saying "look, he didn't deny it!"

This, ladies and gentlemen, is the absolute perfect example of the difference between those on the left and those on the right.

Had anyone on the right said such a thing, conservatives on this board would have stomped on them.

 

[Cuddles]

He also didn't talk about what he wants to dress up as for Halloween. So what?

A guy running for Governor says he has proof that elections are already infiltrated by Russians in an attempt to undermine the results as he is already trailing in the polls. DHS and the FEC investigate, find nothing. The candidate doesn't provide any proof or answer requests for evidence.

But instead of condemning the move as stupid, you focus on Rubio by saying "look, he didn't deny it!"

This, ladies and gentlemen, is the absolute perfect example of the difference between those on the left and those on the right.

Had anyone on the right said such a thing, conservatives on this board would have stomped on them.

Don't spread fake news; this reads like it's been looked into to you:

"The Florida Department of State has received zero information from Senator Nelson or his staff that support his claims," agency spokeswoman Sarah Revell said in a statement. "Additionally, the Department has received no information from the U.S. Department of Homeland Security, the Federal Bureau of Investigation or the Florida Department of Law Enforcement that corroborates Senator Nelson's statement and we have no evidence to support these claims.

"If Senator Nelson has specific information about threats to our elections, he should share it with election officials in Florida."

 

[Tsing Tao]

Don't spread fake news; this reads like it's been looked into to you:

"The Florida Department of State has received zero information from Senator Nelson or his staff that support his claims," agency spokeswoman Sarah Revell said in a statement. "Additionally, the Department has received no information from the U.S. Department of Homeland Security, the Federal Bureau of Investigation or the Florida Department of Law Enforcement that corroborates Senator Nelson's statement and we have no evidence to support these claims.

"If Senator Nelson has specific information about threats to our elections, he should share it with election officials in Florida."

Sorry, what was fake?

 

[Cuddles]

Sorry, what was fake?

The claim that's been investigated and zero evidence turning up.

Here's the editor of the original article whose opinion piece you quoted:

 

[Tsing Tao]

“While we are aware of Senator Nelson’s recent statements, we have not seen any new compromises by Russian actors of election infrastructure,” Sara Sendek, a spokeswoman for the Department of Homeland Security, said in a statement on Wednesday. “That said, we don’t need to wait for a specific threat to be ready.”

and

"The Florida Department of State, which oversees elections there, said it had no evidence to support Nelson's claims and that the senator should share any specific information he has with elections officials."

Dunno, that sounds like neither the DHS or the Florida State Department have no evidence of any such issues (which kinda means "zero evidence") and requests for Nelson to provide proof have gone completely unanswered.

You can defend this however you want and try to attack nuance but that's the full of it.

 

[Cuddles]

“While we are aware of Senator Nelson’s recent statements, we have not seen any new compromises by Russian actors of election infrastructure,” Sara Sendek, a spokeswoman for the Department of Homeland Security, said in a statement on Wednesday. “That said, we don’t need to wait for a specific threat to be ready.”

and

"The Florida Department of State, which oversees elections there, said it had no evidence to support Nelson's claims and that the senator should share any specific information he has with elections officials."

Dunno, that sounds like neither the DHS or the Florida State Department have no evidence of any such issues (which kinda means "zero evidence") and requests for Nelson to provide proof have gone completely unanswered.

You can defend this however you want and try to attack nuance but that's the full of it.

The full of it is they haven't investigated anything and want Collins to give them some lead to go on. Saying anything else from what's on the article is disingenuous

 

[Tsing Tao]

The full of it is they haven't investigated anything and want Collins to give them some lead to go on. Saying anything else from what's on the article is disingenuous

Their job is to ensure there's no hacking. Constantly. Just because someone comes out and says "Santa Claus exists!" doesn't mean the government should open some new investigation into trying to confirm this.

You used to be a bit more balanced in your considerations and not just argue to argue.