Dem. Pollsters: If Dems. Ignore Healthcare Polls, Midterms Will Be Costly

[Dr. Zhivodka]

Taxes have been going up since 1861 and The United States has had mass Federal socialized medicine since 1965.

It has hardly hurt the Democrats yet.

Quote from jem:

when costs and taxes go up.... it will be over for the dems.
If they don't go up... when then it might be ok for Barry (as zhivodka says. )

 

[Dr. Zhivodka]

Went about what? As far as I can tell not a goddamn thing has happened.

Quote from Ivanovich:

[B...What's more, little of this will actually go into effect by mid-term elections, and the one thing the people will remember is the cheap and sleazy way in which the Democrats went about this. THAT will be paramount in November.

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Quote from Ivanovich:

In some cases. But many more of us will have our costs increased, or our private plans altered. What's more, little of this will actually go into effect by mid-term elections, and the one thing the people will remember is the cheap and sleazy way in which the Democrats went about this. THAT will be paramount in November.

Even if by chance some folks see a benefit by November, who is more likely to vote for mid-term elections? People who are content or people who are pissed off?

Much is this will go into effect by mid terms,kids on your ins until 26,no pre existing conditions for kids,high risk pools for those that cant get ins due to pre existing conditions

As long as the Dem's play it right they will be fine.Run on the platform that the Repubs will take your health care

 

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Quote from jem:

ivanovich just gave you the bottom line.

when costs and taxes go up.... it will be over for the dems.
If they don't go up... when then it might be ok for Barry (as zhivodka says. )

the uninsured... they already have emergency health care anyway. most of those people are either gaming the system or pissed off white people who are not allowed to access the free giveaways others get.

The are not going to change their vote if they vote at all.

Taxes will only be going up on the rich,a small % of voters

The emergency room only stabilizes you and make sure you aren't dying,The ER does not treat or cure serious illnesses

 

[Gabfly1]

Let's see. Obama ran for office with health care reform as his principal platform. It got him elected. Now he is endeavoring to make good on his election promises which got him elected. And this will hurt him?

Meanwhile, the health insurance companies are collectively spending 9 figures of their money annually opposing reform. For the greater good, of course. Yeah, that's it. The poor bastards had to deny countless insurance claims so they could finance the lobbying efforts and disinformation ads that are for your own good. They're all about you.

 

[Scataphagos]

Quote from Lucrum:

...so they can get fucked over by the federal government instead.

Latest from New England Journal of Medicine (rag, I know).... "If Obamacare/Tyranny bill passes, 8% of doctors will retire immediately + 22% will retire early"...

That means, the patient/doctor ratio will just about DOUBLE... while doctors get stiffed at Medicare reimbursement rates.... which, BTW, only covers out-of-pocket costs... sometimes, not even that.... LONNNNG waits and "short visits" with doctors .... too short to do a proper diagnostic... because the backlog of waiting patients is so long.

THE ENTIRE HEALTH CARE STRUCTURE LIKELY WILL COLLAPSE... thanks to Obama's Commie ideologies...

FUCK OBAMA AND EVERYTHING HE REPRESENTS!!!!!!

And that Dennis Kucinich... what little, measly fucking worm he is..

 

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Quote from Lucrum:

...so they can get fucked over by the federal government instead.

The federal government already pays over 50 % of health care costs,Medicare and the VA are better then private insurers

 

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Quote from Scataphagos:

Latest from New England Journal of Medicine (rag, I know).... "If Obamacare/Tyranny bill passes, 8% of doctors will retire immediately + 22% will retire early"...

That means, the patient/doctor ratio will just about DOUBLE... while doctors get stiffed at Medicare reimbursement rates.... which, BTW, only covers out-of-pocket costs... sometimes, not even that.... LONNNNG waits and "short visits" with doctors .... too short to do a proper diagnostic... because the backlog of waiting patients is so long.

THE ENTIRE HEALTH CARE STRUCTURE LIKELY WILL COLLAPSE... thanks to Obama's Commie ideologies...

FUCK OBAMA AND EVERYTHING HE REPRESENTS!!!!!!

And that Dennis Kucinich... what little, measly fucking worm he is..

Obama has my vote in 2012

 

[Lucrum]

Quote from Gabfly1:

Let's see. Obama ran for office with health care reform as his principal platform. It got him elected.

Disgust with Bush got OUR current president elected.

Now he is endeavoring to make good on his election promises which got him elected. And this will hurt him?

According to polls a small majority of US citizens DO NOT want the current bill. So yes it might hurt him.

...health insurance companies...had to deny countless insurance claims so they could finance the lobbying efforts and disinformation ads...

And you have documented unbiased incontrovertible evidence of these claims? Or are you just talking out or your non US citizen non US tax paying flaming liberal ass again?


Or will you ignore the question and run to Magna crying like a little bitch that the big bad US taxpayer "thug" is making you look foolish.



Typical liberal, you want big brother (government) to provide all your needs and solve all your problems. And big brother (moderators) to fight your battles for you because you're too much of a mamas boy to do it yourself.

 

[Scataphagos]

Quote from Lucrum:

"...Typical liberal, you want big brother (government) to provide all your needs and solve all your problems.

And they always manage to ignore the fact..... if there were no PRODUCTIVE PRIVATE SECTOR, there would be no wealth to "redistribute". WHEN EVERYBODY WORKS FOR THE GOVERNMENT, NOBODY WILL HAVE ANYTHING... they never get that message.