Dell, my last purchase and done with them

Quote from Roxiticus:

That would be like asking your ex wife to marry you again.
Didn't work the first time around.
AIN't Gonna Happen a second time man!!!!!!!!!!

Third time's the charm. Too bad nobody ever tries for the third...
 
On the Dell subject.

Read this article:

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/29/technology/29dell.html

"After the math department at the University of Texas noticed some of its Dell computers failing, Dell examined the machines. The company came up with an unusual reason for the computers’ demise: the school had overtaxed the machines by making them perform difficult math calculations. "

"Documents recently unsealed in a three-year-old lawsuit against Dell show that the company’s employees were actually aware that the computers were likely to break. Still, the employees tried to play down the problem to customers and allowed customers to rely on trouble-prone machines, putting their businesses at risk. Even the firm defending Dell in the lawsuit was affected when Dell balked at fixing 1,000 suspect computers, according to e-mail messages revealed in the dispute. "

"A study by Dell found that OptiPlex computers affected by the bad capacitors were expected to cause problems up to 97 percent of the time over a three-year period, according to the lawsuit. "

Yes, the actual faulty computers (with exploding capacitors on motherboards) were made a few years back... but lawsuits take years. So, all the recent info is mostly about recalls due to health and safety issues alone.

See my earlier post on more recent problems with Dell produce.

It doesn't take long to replace a faulty product line. What takes much longer is to replace the corporate culture: "use the cheapest components possible, cross your fingures and hope the customers won't complain. If customers complain, lie to them that no one else has problems with this product line. Even better, tell customers it's their fault for actually using the computer."

To summarize, the problem with Dell is not that they made and sold faulty computers. Every manufacturer makes a faulty product once in a while: think of Intel's recall of X58 chipset earlier this year. The problem with Dell is the refusal to take responsibility and make good to the customers.
 
Quote from LeeD:

On the Dell subject.

Read this article:

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/29/technology/29dell.html

"After the math department at the University of Texas noticed some of its Dell computers failing, Dell examined the machines. The company came up with an unusual reason for the computers’ demise: the school had overtaxed the machines by making them perform difficult math calculations. "

"Documents recently unsealed in a three-year-old lawsuit against Dell show that the company’s employees were actually aware that the computers were likely to break. Still, the employees tried to play down the problem to customers and allowed customers to rely on trouble-prone machines, putting their businesses at risk. Even the firm defending Dell in the lawsuit was affected when Dell balked at fixing 1,000 suspect computers, according to e-mail messages revealed in the dispute. "

"A study by Dell found that OptiPlex computers affected by the bad capacitors were expected to cause problems up to 97 percent of the time over a three-year period, according to the lawsuit. "

Yes, the actual faulty computers (with exploding capacitors on motherboards) were made a few years back... but lawsuits take years. So, all the recent info is mostly about recalls due to health and safety issues alone.

See my earlier post on more recent problems with Dell produce.

It doesn't take long to replace a faulty product line. What takes much longer is to replace the corporate culture: "use the cheapest components possible, cross your fingures and hope the customers won't complain. If customers complain, lie to them that no one else has problems with this product line. Even better, tell customers it's their fault for actually using the computer."

This situation was bad for buyers and bad for Dell's PR.... hopefully Dell learned their lesson.

Big as this was, it's still only "one deal"... doesn't infer "everthing else is crap"...

PS... All the makers chintz on parts as much as they can get away with (which is why Foxconn has 1.3 million employees making components for most of the world's computers, TVs, etc.).. no surprise there.
 
Quote from Roxiticus:

Never will buy another dell or HP ever again, I don't know which one is worse. Rather buy top of the line equipment with American (english speaking) Tech support.
.... and what company still has American support? That's one of the reasons I still buy Dell. Everyone has some issues, the Dell Techies keep me from getting too upset over mine...

R
 
Quote from RL8093:

.... and what company still has American support?


Dell... for their Precision Line computers... perhaps others, but Precision line for sure.

Buy a proper Precision Line computer at a good price from Dell's Outlet. Win-Win for you.
 
Quote from shortie:

adding another Dell salesman to my Ignore list

Salesmen at least get paid for spewing tripe.

Scat's worse than that, he's a fanboy who does it for free...
 
Quote from jprad:

Salesmen at least get paid for spewing tripe.

Scat's worse than that, he's a fanboy who does it for free...

you are absolutely right!

moved him to my SUPER IGNORE list :D
 
Quote from shortie:

you are absolutely right!

moved him to my SUPER IGNORE list :D

Politically Scat is full of BS but I like his posts on computors and those are informative. I just bought a precision from the outlet after reading his posts, so even Beck-heads can be useful.
 
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