Quote from giles117:
Well if you diasgree with the choices my forefather made..... We will not find common ground...
Peace....
I am sorry when my brothers do not share my decision to hear only one Voice, because it weakens them as teachers and learners.
Yet I know they cannot really betray themselves or me, and that it is still on them that I must build my church.
There is no choice in this. I must found God's church on you, because those who accept me as a model are literally my disciples. Disciples are followers, and if the model they follow has chosen to save them pain in all respects, they are unwise not to follow him.
I elected, for your sake and mine, to demonstrate that the most outrageous assault, as the world judges, does not matter. AS the world judges these things - but not as God knows them - I was betrayed, abandoned, beaten, torn, and finally killed.
It was clear that this was only because of the projection of others onto me, since I had not harmed anyone and had healed many.
We are still equal as learners, although we do not need to have equal experiences.
The Holy Spirit is glad when you can learn from my experiences, and be reawakened by them. That is their only purpose, and that is the only way I can be perceived as the way, the truth and the life.
When you hear only one Voice, you are never called on to sacrifice.
On the contrary, by being able to hear the Holy Spirit in others you can learn from their experiences, and can gain from them without experiencing them directly yourself. That is because the Holy Spirit is one, and anyone who listens is inevitably led to demonstrate His way for all.
The crucifixion cannot be shared because it is the symbol of projection, but the resurrection is the symbol of sharing because the reawakening of every Son of God is necessary to enable the Sonship to know its Wholeness.
The message of the crucifixion is perfectly clear:
Teach only love, for that is what you are.
If you interpret the crucifixion in any other way, you are using it as a weapon for assault rather than as the call for peace for which it was intended.
The Apostles often misunderstood it, and for the same reason that anyone misunderstands it. Their own imperfect love made them vulnerable to projection, and out of their own fear they spoke of the "wrath of God" as His retaliatory weapon. Nor could they speak of the crucifixion entirely without anger, because their sense of guilt had made them angry.
These are some of the example of upside-down thinking in the New Testament, although its gospel is really only the message of love.
If the Apostles had not felt guilty, they never could have quoted me as saying, "I come not to bring peace but a sword".
This is clearly the opposite of everything I taught.
As you read the teachings of the Apostles, remember that I told them myself that there was much they would understand later, because they were not wholly ready to follow me at the time.
I do not want you to allow any fear to enter into the thought system toward which I am guiding you.
I do not call for martyrs but for teachers.
No one is punished for sins, and the Sons of God are not sinners. Any concept of punishment involves the projection of blame, and reinforces the idea that blame is justified.
The crucifixion was the result of clearly opposed thought systems..the perfect symbol of the conflict between the "devil" and the Son of God. This conflict seems just as real now, and its lessons must be learned now as well as then.
I do not need your gratitude, but you need to develop your weakened ability to be grateful, or you cannot appreciate God. He does not need your appreciation, but
you do.
You cannot love what you do not appreciate, for fear makes appreciation impossible.
When you are afraid of what you are you do not appreciate it, and will therefore reject it.
As a result, you will teach rejection.
The power of the Sons of God is present all the time, because they were created as creators. Their influence on each other is without limit, and must be used for their joint salvation.
Each one must learn to teach that all forms of rejection are meaningless. For as long as you teach rejection, you will believe in separation.
This is not as God thinks, and you must think as He thinks if you are to know Him again.
Remember that the Holy Spirit is the Communication Link between God the Father and His separated Sons. If you will listen to His Voice you will know that you cannot either hurt or be hurt, and that many need your blessing to help them hear this for themselves.
When you percieve only this need in them, and do not respond to any other, you will have learned of me and will be as eager to share your learning as I am.
Peace,
Jesus