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Did the bible say that????
I yield to the Bibles version, not yours....
Genesis 2:21-22
And the LORD God caused a deep sleep to fall upon Adam, and he slept: and he took one of his ribs, and closed up the flesh instead thereof; And the rib, which the LORD God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man.
Definition
Split - break or cause to break forcibly into parts, esp. into halves or along the grain
took - removed
SO, no the bible said nothing about a splitting.... You did....
You are splitting hairs. I have preserved the meaning of the text: Adam was split in two. It doesn't matter whether it was by a hack saw or rib surgery.
I will also point out that it says "a deep sleep fell upon Adam".
It does not say anywhere that he ever woke up.
The rib surgery, the missing rib, the snake, the tree...all just a bad dream.
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God is Love - I John 4:8b
If there is only love then explain away the hatred mankind has one against another....
A belief in duality will provide the experience of it's opposite which is fear or hate. But the experience will be delusional, as Eistein explained.
Likewise, the belief in guilt, as opposite of innocence, will produce the experience of pain. But it will still be delusional.
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To believe there is nothing more than Love and that Good and Evil do not exist is to symbolize confusion.
Yes, that's why duality is confusing. That's what it's for...what it accomplishes.
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Again I restate, we were made in his image, not the other way around.... If I image a thing, it is not the same as the original..... It is in the pure essence of the Hebrew word for image in this passage.... a Resemblance....
I am saying you are projecting your own self-concept upon God.
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They say we resemble Apes, but do we???? Are there similarities??? Head, face, 2 arms 2 legs as you state, but that is where it ends....
Likeness in the Hebrew in this passage = resemblance or modeled after....
I am saying you are projecting the resemblance of your self-concept upon God. To apes, God probably has lots of hair.
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SO does God look like us or do we look like God?? Can we get an idea of what God MAY look like by looking at one another???
No. He looks nothing like a body!
I have asked you to look beyond the body to the "light", ei. "do not hide your light under a bushel".
And I showed a few what that light looked like on the "Mount of Transfiguration".
I am saying, Do not look at bodies! See the light! If not, you are blind.
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Finally. Romans 1:24 puts it into perspective....And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.
Paul is describing all the unglorious shapes and sizes that the prodigal Son transformed himself into as he left home. His home is reality, and all these shapes and sizes are delusions...a place to wander, creep, crawl, and die.
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The word to key in on is GLORY...... When man says God looks like us he
misses one key factor... Gods Glory is what makes him NOT like us. We were created in his image. Not the other way around.... We do not have his Glory. That sets him apart from us....
To set apart is to separate. I am explaining that separation is the word to key in on.
The glory you cannot see remains unchanged behind the appearances of bodies. I am asking you to look for that glory in your neighbor...beyond his or her body.
The glory is seen not with the eyes of the body, but with
vision. Vision is to see with the eyes of Christ. Till then, you are blind.
For the Son of God was created in glory, and remains unchanged by his sojourn in a strange land. And Christ sees all like himself.
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If prior to Adams transgression this was not Utopia to the dirt formed and life breathed Man placed on this earth, then why are you here???
I am really not here. Just ask Depak Chopra.
That is the point of non-duality. You can't have it both ways.
I am spirit. Not form. And the universe does not exist but in a delusion of consciousness.
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If God wanted more for "mankind" from the outset, then why bother breathing spirtual life into a lump of dirt and forcing him to be limited to this plane of existence......
Let me be perfectly clear...
God does not want mankind at all, let alone more of mankind, or more for mankind.
It is not His Will!
Mankind is
your will. And in reality, it is not even your will, because your will and our Father's Will is one.
Man is a whim, a wish, a fantasy. It is not the creation of true will, or the will of the Father and Son together. Only that combined will extends true creation.
Not only is it not His Will, he knows nothing about mankind, for mankind is nothing, and so there is nothing to know about it.
Let me give you an example.
When you see your son or daughter having a bad dream, do you know anything about the dream they are having? Is the dream real?
Of course not.
Instead, you gently wake them up, and assure them that the things they see and think real are just passing shadows that cannot hurt them.
Then you wipe away the tears and that is all. Forgotten.
Such is this world. It will pass away, and all will be forgotten.
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And if you are Jesus and Jesus is quoted saying, "I and My Father One," then are you publicly admitting that this entire Earth/Man experiement was a Humongous failure????
The dream is meaningless, so it is neither a failure or success. You can however call it the near successful accomplishment of the destruction of God's Son...as a point of reference.
Rather, it was the near destruction of his mind, by his own thoughts.
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Man didnt do what you wanted him to do... You messed when you gave him Free Will, you messed up when you created Lucifer and you messed up with the 1/3rd of the angels he took with him on their day of creation....
SO I would conlude that you are a mess..
Man is a toy in the mind that
you want to do this and that. It is
you who play with such toys.
Our Father does not play with such toys. Does not make them. Does not Will they be made. Does not acknowledge such toys.
You made Lucifer as a toy,
you the prodigal Son. It does not exist.
You way underestimate how much power a Son of God has.
Lucifer is the idea of separation, and you could say that 1/3 of your mind is devoted to playing out the scenarios he plans for you, in the forms he makes for you.
Such is this world of sad toys.
You have imagined separation...a vain thing. Such is Satan. Look around and see the destruction of this imagining. There was
never a Utopia in this world, or one that did not destroy itself.
This world began in sadness, so it will end in laughter.
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The Garden was Not Mans Home. It was a place of residency. A residence is not your Home. It is a place in which your physical body resides from time to time.
So you are saying God's Son is His house-boy and/or gardener?
Are you saying he made his Son to keep his planets green?
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So if I agree that home is where the heart is, then Adams home was in his relationship with The Father.... When he left that home voluntarily to pursue the very thing his Father warned him about, he died in his relationship with God.
I don't remember anything in my parable of the prodigal son about the father sending his son to house-sit and to keep in touch by email.
Let me remind you, that my parable and Genesis represent thought systems that cannot coexist.
You are showing that clearly here.
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But again this was a Parable spoken... Not to be taken literally. So even though you claim to be the Jesus that spoke this parable how is you do not understand the definition of the word Parable.....
You are taking the parable of Genesis literally, and the parable of the prodigal Son figuratively.
At least you don't claim to be a student of truth.
Jesus
