Deflation-stealth in '08 shows face in '10

Deadbroke, I agree with most of what you are saying and showing in your own way. The draw out of the narrative is bit tedious for me because I am already there, but please enjoy yourself and blow off charge.
 
Quote from Ed Breen:

Deadbroke, I agree with most of what you are saying and showing in your own way. The draw out of the narrative is bit tedious for me because I am already there, but please enjoy yourself and blow off charge.


>>>> I am already there <<<<

meaning? :)
 
Quote from mokwit:

Sounds like you have actually run a business, unlike the academic buffoon at the Fed who thinks it's all about economic abstracts.

My definition of inflation - it is when you can charge more and get away with it - either because the economy is good and things are easy or because your input costs means you have to charge more and if you can't you won't sell and the buyer accepts that.

Hyperinflation: When the price you charge for an item reflects a greater weight the price you will have to pay to restock tomorrow morning rather than just the price you paid wholesale this morning.


Excellent! :) :D
 
Quote from Kassz007:

USD is still considered a safe haven currency....for now.


Its more than a safe haven currency. Its a champion. Look at the beating it took from 2001 to the low in 2008. Everyone was writing him off, calling him a reprobate. Then look what Benny did to him, poured green ink all over him and tried to ruin his image.

But he fcked 'em all.

And what's more, the second place contender is who, where, what, say what?

Maybe his reign will end some day, but not till this GREAT BEAR ends!!!
 
Some more practical observations

Since Deflation results from a contraction in the quantity of outstanding debt .....

Real-estate crashed in 2005, the stock market crashed in 2007, and commodities crashed in 2008. Despite trillions in bailouts and coddling, the highs are still not taken out. PPI and CPI's roc is still near zero.

M3 (money supply, actually credit supply) has turned down.

15% of US home mortgages are either delinquent or in default. Mortgages are the bedrock of banks' assets. Banks don't lend freely when their assets are collapsing in value.
 
In hyperinflationary times, people are desperate to get rid of their wheelbarrows full of money.

In deflationary times, people are desperate to obtain money. Today, it is difficult to get anyone to part with a dollar. Homeowners can't make mortgage payments. Employees are taking pay cuts. Retailers are cutting prices. And jobs are scarce.

Even as monetary authorities urge banks to lend, Congress has curtailed credit by passing laws to regulate bank loans, reduce banks' proprietary trading, restrict profits from credit card fees, oversee credit-rating services and restrict the size of financial institutions. This trend is the opposite of the government's expansionary policies of the late 1990s and early 2000s, and it is deflationary. Recklessness contributed to inflation; conservatism will curtail it.

Monetary authorities have done everything they can think of to bring back inflation, and they are failing. Central banks face a problem they facilitated: There is too much doomed debt in the world.
 
observing the HERD ........


Most people seem to believe monetary authorities can and will inflate away all this debt. But one leading indicator should give pause. According to Trade-Futures' Daily Sentiment Index, the percentage of bulls among traders of gold futures in May hit 98%. This record-high reading suggests inflation has been widely anticipated and is therefore not likely to be the next big event.


conclusion: Prepare for Deflation, not Inflation.
 
Hyper inflation comes only from the excessive printing of money. Problem the Govies round the world have now, is that their debt is all short term or close to short term, when inflation kicks rates will jump.

So you are right they have throw the baby and the bathwater at this and result no inflation, I have to think though how bad would it have been if they hadn't but now its time to let the invisible hand work its magic and let the weak banks and companies die, time to let the strong thrive, otherwise we have zombie land
 
Quote from deadbroke:

Self-liquidating credit is a loan that is paid back, with interest, in a moderately short time from production. This means that production facilitated by the loan generates the financial return that makes repayment possible. The full transaction adds value to the econmy.

I disagree. The full transaction adds MONEY to the economy. Thus lower value to the economy, which results in inflation.

A more valuable economy would have deflation. Everything purchased on credit is costing a premium. Future pricing of goods and services must adjust to these realities. This creates the bubble. Bubbles as everyone well knows by now are NOT VALUABLE.

Less credit is good credit.
 
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