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QUOTE="gwb-trading, post: 5470382, member: 9113"]
Let's address the fabricated myocarditis information in your pile of nonsense.
Are you willing to state Covid vaccines never cause Myocarditis? Probably not, even as you repeat your false statement below, only to have your own posted article contradict your statement. As far as Covid causing more Myocarditis than the vaccines, that is believable, but still insufficient to mandate vaccines for the general public. After all, those concerned about Covid are perfectly able to acquire the vaccines for it, right?
Those who distrust the propagandist’s agenda should not be mandated vaccinations under threat of loss of livelihood.
Yes, the study which anti-vaxxers use to make all sorts of exaggerated claims about vaccines and myocarditis has been retracted as being incorrect.
Taking your posted article at face value, it does not say vaccines don’t cause Myocarditis, rather the number infected currently appear lower then previously believed. Further, as data continues to accumulate in the field, statistical information will reflect greater numbers, thus increasing confidence. In other words, the propagandists may be simply using normal statistical variation as sample sizes increase in an attempt to discredit information and those concerned about overreaching vaccine mandates that goes against the propagandist’s narratives.
The Key debated point of your article has been underlined below for your convenience.
Study saying COVID-19 vaccines cause heart inflammation that was hyped by anti-vaxxers, withdrawn due to miscalculation
https://www.businessinsider.com/stu...cines-cause-heart-inflammation-pulled-2021-10
- A preprint study stated that 1 in 1,000 recipients of the COVID-19 vaccine could get myocarditis.
- The study has been withdrawn after a miscalculation overestimated the risk of the heart condition.
- The COVID-19 is safe to get, and there is more risk of getting myocarditis from COVID-19 than the jab.
A preprint study first published on MedRxiv that claimed a 1 in 1,000 risk of contracting myocarditis from a
COVID-19 vaccination has been withdrawn due to miscalculations.
MedRxiv is a website that publishes studies that have yet to be peer-reviewed,
according to Reuters.
The study was first published on September 16 and conducted by researchers at The University of Ottawa Heart Institute. It was widely used to promote the idea that the
COVID-19 vaccine is unsafe for use.
However, the study has been retracted due to a miscalculation,
Reuters reported.
The rate of myocarditis - the inflammation of the heart muscle - was calculated by dividing the number of COVID-19 vaccines in Ottawa by the number of incidences of the heart condition.
By their calculations, the risk of myocarditis was 1 in 1,000 or 0.1%.
However, the numbers used by the study were wrong. The authors largely underestimated the amount of vaccines delivered, giving a number 25 times smaller than the actual amount.
So vaccines have a Myocarditis risk of 1/25,000 according to the updated calculations of that particular study. How many healthy school age children have serious Covid complications, again? By serious, I mean significantly extended adverse changes in quality of life when compared to either the flu or typical Covid outcomes for that age group.
They initially said that the number of vaccines delivered was 32,379 – when it was actually 854,930.
As a result of this miscalculation, the study was withdrawn on September 24, with the researchers
saying in a statement: "Our reported incidence appeared vastly inflated by an incorrectly small denominator (ie number of doses administered over the time period of the study). We reviewed the data available at Open Ottawa and found that there had indeed been a major underestimation, with the actual number of administered doses being more than 800,000
I’m curious when the original study took place and whether the clinical definition of Myocarditis changed from then until recently.
Perhaps I can get some ET posters who are concerned about Covid propaganda (Judging by the thread poll, the current majority of poll participants are quite concerned) and mandates to corroborate with me and review the related studies on this issue, as well as other issues. Since it seems many of us have plenty of time to post politics, why not use that time to potentially make a difference in the issues we are concerned about. There is some evidence that some of our ET conversations extend beyond the confines of ET, effectively amplifying our concerns.
"In order to avoid misleading either colleagues or the general public and press, we the authors unanimously wish to withdraw this paper on the grounds of incorrect incidence data," they added.
The University of Ottawa Heart Institute also
issued a statement of apology for any misinformation being spread as a result of this study.
Using data from the Vaccine Safety Datalink, the CDC
advised Reuters that other studies have shown that there was not "a significant association between myocarditis/pericarditis and mRNA vaccines," when looking at all age groups, although they did caution "an association between mRNA vaccines and myocarditis/pericarditis in younger individuals," particularly higher among young males.
However,
a preprint study on the prevalence of myocarditis in young men found that they are six times more likely to develop myocarditis from COVID-19 than from the vaccine.
The CDC continues to stress the importance of getting the vaccine, stating that any known risks of the COVID-19 vaccine are far outweighed by the benefits.[/QUOTE
The CDC is welcome to stress all they want, as long as they don’t recommend mandates to the general public for viruses of only moderate impact.
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