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Debtor prisons are back
- Thread starter gwb-trading
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What you are referring to is fraud and it should be prosecuted. If you read the article people aren't getting locked up for simply owing a debt; they're getting locked up for contempt of court or ignoring a court order. That is a jailable offense and makes the reason the person ended up in court in the first place a moot point.
Quote from peilthetraveler:
So then in your opinion, if someone goes out and gets a bunch of loans, maxes out his credit card and refinances his house to pull all the cash out and then moves to the bahamas to retire...he shouldnt be pursued because the banks, credit cards and mortgage lenders that LOANED him money "took a chance"?
Quote from gwb-trading:
Jailed for $280: The return of debtors' prisons
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-505144_162-57417654/jailed-for-$280-the-return-of-debtors-prisons/
I think that's Effed up.
Lots of abuse in our court/ govt systems IMHO.
we are their slaves and they know it. Best thing is, be a judge, know one, or be as invisible as you can.
Quote from PHOENIX TRADING:
I think that's Effed up.
Lots of abuse in our court/ govt systems IMHO.
we are their slaves and they know it. Best thing is, be a judge, know one, or be as invisible as you can.
Best thing to do is pay your bills and go to court when summoned, then you will have no problems. Unfortunately most people would rather spend their money on stupid things for themselves instead of being responsible and paying their bills. I am sure this will come as a big suprise to alot of people but If you are an adult you have to sacrifice and be responsible for your actions.
Quote from logic_man:
I actually did catch that she was put in jail for contempt of court. Even if she had been put in jail for the debt itself, I wouldn't mind.
What is it the jackasses who support abortion always say, "Don't support abortion? Don't have one!" Well, that works for this as well.
"Don't support debtors' prisons? Don't go into debt!"
As far as I'm concerned, bring back Shylock's solution of a pound of flesh. Of course, with the fatasses we've got here in the US, we might need to make that two pounds.
Guess you've never had someone magically declare you owed them something until it was turned over to a collections agency.
facts:
1) I never got the bills they claimed they sent.
2) Never heard about the supposed debt until contacted by the collection agency. By that time the charges for non payment were 3-4x the original bill.
3) I paid in full to the collection agency that day on the phone just to stop it from getting worse. I can just imagne if I didn't get the court notice to appear for a bill I never (knowingly) agreed to (nor disclosed in any way), never got.
This was a result of a medical bill.
The problem is you get bills from people you never met, never were told would be doing work on your behalf etc etc.
When I take my car in for repairs I get one bill not:
1) separate bills from the mechanic
2) parts store
3) parts store driver
4) junk yard consult
5) some photographer
6) oil technician analysis
Quote from tradin4profits:
Best thing to do is pay your bills and go to court when summoned, then you will have no problems.
It would be nice if things were that easy.
Now who do I sue if I'm summoned to court for a bill that is not valid.
Who is my employer going to sue for the loss of productivity.
Is the state gonna pay me back?
which reminds me of a separate story
This is a true story I did some work for the state (3-4 Yrs ago )they sent me a check and it FRICKEN BOUNCED.
It cost me 35$ for insufficient funds because their fricken check to me bounced!
I was very tempted to submit it back to them as state income tax paid.
They finally paid me but guess what, they never reimbursed me for the bounced check fee.
I won't work for the sorry bastids anymore.
Anyone who wants to understand the real relationship of debtor and creditor and how it is the foundation of civilization needs to read this. Everything else is just superficial blather.
http://records.viu.ca/~johnstoi/Nietzsche/genealogy2.htm
http://records.viu.ca/~johnstoi/Nietzsche/genealogy2.htm
There are many good reason why debtor prison are abolished before. Religious nuts and imbecile would never study it before commenting.
All debt have risk, including US government debt, creditor has responsibility only give out creditworthy debts. There are hidden agendas to host tax payers worldwide to pay bad debts.
Police and court system getting paid to stuff people in its jail.
All debt have risk, including US government debt, creditor has responsibility only give out creditworthy debts. There are hidden agendas to host tax payers worldwide to pay bad debts.
Police and court system getting paid to stuff people in its jail.