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Quote from Ricter:

Uhh, I thought Romney used "soon to haves" in his response after the speech...
I listened to both Obama's and Daniels' speeches in their entirety. I don't recall Obama saying it, but I distinctly recall Daniels saying it immediately after.

When Epic suggested I was mistaken earlier in this thread, I Googled the phrase and saw it attributed most recently only to Daniels, with no mention of Obama. However, Rubio apparently also used the phrase in mid-December 2011.
 
Quote from Maverick74:

Obviously you don't understand the purpose of debates. It's not about laying out a detailed plan for anything. It's about scrutinizing each other's experience and track record. It's called a vetting process. The right does it, the left does it. Once each party has vetted their candidate, they can lay out specifics in the general. Of course we know from history that rarely does a candidate ever follow through on that stuff, but it's there if you want to listen to it.

I understand the purpose of debates in our current system. It's about who can take the heat. Who has the thickest skin. Who can be insulted and stand there with a smile. And then we wonder how we end up with a scumbag in the Oval Office. What self respecting person would even subject themselves to such a process?
 
Quote from Brass:

Yes, I am. I think you're mistaken.

How could I be mistaken when I just provided you the quote from the SOTU transcript?

I realize that Daniels said it also. But I listened to both of them too, and it was first said by Obama in the SOTU.

You can't criticize the GOP for a statement and then not criticize your guy for the same statement an hour earlier in the SOTU.
 
Quote from Epic:

How could I be mistaken when I just provided you the quote from the SOTU transcript?

I realize that Daniels said it also. But I listened to both of them too, and it was first said by Obama in the SOTU.

You can't criticize the GOP for a statement and then not criticize your guy for the same statement an hour earlier in the SOTU.

Of course you can. This is ET. :)
 
Quote from Maverick74:

Of course you can. This is ET. :)

Well, I could be mistaken too. The snip that I provided might have been form Daniel's speech.
 
Quote from Epic:

How could I be mistaken when I just provided you the quote from the SOTU transcript?

I realize that Daniels said it also. But I listened to both of them too, and it was first said by Obama in the SOTU.

You can't criticize the GOP for a statement and then not criticize your guy for the same statement an hour earlier in the SOTU.
I just searched the full transcript, on the word "soon", and "soon to have" is not in there. Where do you see it?

Edit: just searched all three full texts. Not in Obama's, not in Romney's. It was in Daniels' republican response. Of course the phrase caught my attention, because the test of its utility should rely on income mobility data.
 
Quote from Ricter:

I just searched the full transcript, on the word "soon", and "soon to have" is not in there. Where do you see it.

Nope, you're right. It was incorrectly quoted in an article. It was Daniels.
 
Quote from Brass:

I listened to both Obama's and Daniels' speeches in their entirety. I don't recall Obama saying it, but I distinctly recall Daniels saying it immediately after.

When Epic suggested I was mistaken earlier in this thread, I Googled the phrase and saw it attributed most recently only to Daniels, with no mention of Obama. However, Rubio apparently also used the phrase in mid-December 2011.

yep, I stand corrected.
 
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