Haroki:
>My point is.....
>
>If the claim that sexual preference is genetic - and
>I'm in agreement with that - then pedos can't be
>rehabbed....
(for the sake of this exchange, I will stipulate that pedos are genetically disposed as such. I am not stating this as a fact and don't know if it's true ... though I suspect in most cases it is)
I'm with you -- a tiger can't change it's stripes.
>It has nothing to do with the legal argument of
>"forcing" oneself upon another.
That's not a "legal argument" Haroki, it's a human one.
>It has to do with whether a person that injures kids
>should be let out.
I don't care pedo, gay, straight -- if you injure someone, anyone you have to do your time. If you injure someone repeatedly and after incarceration, you've shown you can't be trusted to change your behavior and you gotta be taken to the next level of punishment.
>But the left's ideas seem to run that a pedo
>can be rehabilitated.
Define: "rehabilitated"
A dog who bites can often be taught not to bite. Has it been taught not to *want* to bite? -- doubtful. behavior CAN be changed *sometimes*. I don't think pedos are any special category here ... some offenses *may* deserve a second chance with heavy stings attached -- some not. And second chances don't turn into thirds and fourths -- not in my book. (but then I'm not the "right" nor the "left")
>They seem to think that with training, they can
>suppress a sexual preference that is determined
>at a genetic level.
I love to talk about this stuff on a non-partisan level Haroki, but with you it can't be done as you always try to launch boulders at the 'other side'. So, since *you* brought up the "left" so harshly I just HAVE to point out more of your/their hypocrisy...
No political group -- NONE!, espouses that sexual preference can be suppressed MORE OFTEN than your beloved right. Most of them espouse that IF you are homosexual, you can (with god's help, etc) "change" and live a good hetro lifestyle.
You claiming that the "left" has the monopoly on that thought is just a hollow sham. Once again, I think both positions suck -- precisely because those positions blind people to their own groups follies as they have done you.
JB
>My point is.....
>
>If the claim that sexual preference is genetic - and
>I'm in agreement with that - then pedos can't be
>rehabbed....
(for the sake of this exchange, I will stipulate that pedos are genetically disposed as such. I am not stating this as a fact and don't know if it's true ... though I suspect in most cases it is)
I'm with you -- a tiger can't change it's stripes.
>It has nothing to do with the legal argument of
>"forcing" oneself upon another.
That's not a "legal argument" Haroki, it's a human one.
>It has to do with whether a person that injures kids
>should be let out.
I don't care pedo, gay, straight -- if you injure someone, anyone you have to do your time. If you injure someone repeatedly and after incarceration, you've shown you can't be trusted to change your behavior and you gotta be taken to the next level of punishment.
>But the left's ideas seem to run that a pedo
>can be rehabilitated.
Define: "rehabilitated"
A dog who bites can often be taught not to bite. Has it been taught not to *want* to bite? -- doubtful. behavior CAN be changed *sometimes*. I don't think pedos are any special category here ... some offenses *may* deserve a second chance with heavy stings attached -- some not. And second chances don't turn into thirds and fourths -- not in my book. (but then I'm not the "right" nor the "left")
>They seem to think that with training, they can
>suppress a sexual preference that is determined
>at a genetic level.
I love to talk about this stuff on a non-partisan level Haroki, but with you it can't be done as you always try to launch boulders at the 'other side'. So, since *you* brought up the "left" so harshly I just HAVE to point out more of your/their hypocrisy...
No political group -- NONE!, espouses that sexual preference can be suppressed MORE OFTEN than your beloved right. Most of them espouse that IF you are homosexual, you can (with god's help, etc) "change" and live a good hetro lifestyle.
You claiming that the "left" has the monopoly on that thought is just a hollow sham. Once again, I think both positions suck -- precisely because those positions blind people to their own groups follies as they have done you.
JB
