Daytrading Rangebound Days in the ES

I just realized why our POC numbers are probably different. They will fluctuate based on the bar timeframe one uses. My 1009.75 is calculated from a one tick.

Thanks very much for the great resources guys
 
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I just realized why our POC numbers are probably different. They will fluctuate based on the bar timeframe one uses. My 1009.75 is calculated from a one tick.

Thanks very much for the great resources guys
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That could be very true, eSig's is based off of the one minute.

Would I be correct in assuming that, all things being equal, tick data probably higher fidelity?
 
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That could be very true, eSig's is based off of the one minute.

Would I be correct in assuming that, all things being equal, tick data probably higher fidelity?
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same charts, 130 ticks provides better accuracy
 

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y, imho, finer resolution is preferred if yr looking for a specific number like POC. But, if my tick data is dirty i suppose it could throw off the number.

also, if yr trying to use it realtime as opposed to EOD like i have been, chances are at least TS isn't going to run all that EL on every tick without skipping ticks and misrepresenting the number.

i wish TS could present POC as a horizontal histogram the way esig and ensign can. TS has a few clunky intrabar volume indicators, but they're not as precise as what you guys are looking at. i've thought about writing horizontal trendlines into my EL to approximate what you've got, but something tells me it's outside the envelope for EL in realtime.
 
found on enthios website:

Trading Methods For Price Histogram - Category 1
Only trade in the direction of the trend (Trend is determined by a rising or falling Point Of Control/POC)

Trade setup #1a: In a down trending market, when the current session opens below the previous day’s Value Area/VA enter a short trade at the previous day’s lower VA and again at the previous day’s POC/HVL placing a protective stop for both trades 1.5 points above the previous day’s upper VA.

Trade setup #1b: In an up trending market, when the current session opens above the previous day’s VA enter a long trade at the previous day’s upper VA and again at the previous day’s POC/HVL placing a protective stop for both trades 1.5 points below the previous day’s lower VA

Trade setup #2a: In a down trending market, when the current session opens within the previous VA enter a short trade at the upper VA placing a stop 1.5 points above the Day Before Yesterday’s/DBY POC or High Volume Level/HVL (the open price must be at least 2 points below the previous days upper VA)

Trade setup #2b: In an up trending market, when the current session opens within the previous days VA enter a long trade at the lower VA placing a stop 1.5 points below the DBY’s POC/HVL (the open price must be at least 2 points above the previous days lower VA)

Trade setup #3a: In a down trending market, when the current session opens above the previous days upper VA and below the DBY’s lower VA enter a short trade at the DBY’s lower VA and again at the DBY’s HVL placing a stop for both trades 1.5 points above the DBY’s upper VA (if stopped out on this setup and price remains above the stop level, change directional bias for all category 2 trade setups for the remainder of the day)

Trade setup #3b: In an up trending market, when the current session opens below the previous days lower VA and above the DBY’s upper VA enter a long trade at the DBY’s upper VA and again at the DBY’s HVL placing a stop for both trades 1.5 points below the DBY’s lower VA (if stopped out on this setup and price remains below the stop level, change directional bias for all category 2 trade setups for the remainder of the day)

Trade setup #4a: In a down trending market, when the current session opens above the DBY’s lower VA and below the DBY’s POC enter a short trade at the DBY’s POC and again at the DBY’s upper VA placing a stop 1.5 points abve the DBY’s High Of the Day/HOD (if stopped out on this setup and price remains above the stop level, change directional bias for all category 2 trade setups for the remainder of the day)

Trade setup #4b: In an up trending market, when the current session opens below the DBY’s upper VA and above the DBY’s POC enter a long trade at the DBY’s POC and again at the DBY’s lower VA placing a stop 1.5 points below the DBY’s Low Of the Day/LOD (if stopped out on this setup and price remains below the stop level, change directional bias for all category 2 trade setups for the remainder of the day)

Profit targets for all trades should be in consideration of the risk of each respective trade and should be placed in consideration of the previous days POC, VA or HVL




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Trading Methods For Price Histogram - Category 2
Category 2 trades are based off the current sessions VA, HVL and POC with profit targets of approximately 2 points (they will generally setup after steps 1 and 2 have occurred in the Price Histogram’s development)

When a Category 2 trade’s entrance level matches up with a previous days HVL It is referred to as a Category 2+ trade (category 2+ trades are generally good for 3 or more points)

Step 1 being vertical movement of price and step 2 being the capping of step 1

Step 1 will generally takes place during the Initial Balance/IB period of the day (the first 60 minutes) Step 2 often occurs during the IB period as well

Step 3 is when the market begins to move more in a horizontal direction than vertical direction and the bell curve begins to take shape

Step 4 is when the bell curve is becoming fully developed and its POC tries to drift towards the center of the IB, if it is not already in the center (occasionally steps 3 or 4 do not fully develop and the market enters step 1 again, this is known as minus development)

Minus development is very helpful in showing the direction of the market
 
I used this to trade today. I basically picked where the values should be, placing them a little under the extremes. I made three trades, 2 good, 1 bad, for a net gain of 2.75 pts a contract. The down arrows show where I shorted at 1008, and the up arrows where I covered at 1006. The last trade I covered at 9.25 for a small loss and now I think I am done trading this range. I will calculate a new one before I start trading again at 2:00 EST. Please note the times on my chart are PST, 3 hours back.
 

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I am really starting to like this range-trading stuff. I've picked up 12 points today just range trading one contract! I highlited the areas I've traded today. Won't bother with individual trades, should be pretty obvious.

Chart is in next post.
 
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