DayTraders Must Stay Connected!!

[cubsguy81]

Quote from Hombre:

You need two dedicated PC's . No browsing, emails, strictly for trading.
One for a cable, one for DSL. Or any other combination available in your area.

Do you have one PC for just trading and absolutely no other programs on it? Seems a tad excessive but the point of needing a lean, fast running machine is well taken.

Certainly don't want to be running iTunes and have spyware clogging up your trading PC

 

[sucre_estave]

Quote from turdlehead:

In the event a failover event occurs (regardless of the cost of the router), your trading front-end (and possibly charting, data feeds, etc.) will lose connectivity and require you re-login. Your IP (on the internet) changes and there is nothing you can do about that. Different connection, different IP to the outside world.

Mentioned so the OP does get the wrong impression. Connectivity failover is not a completely seamless event as far as trading is concerned. Applies to all applications, non-trading applications included that require log-in.

This probably depends on the application. When I've had a failover, I've never had to re-login to IB or eSignal. Takes a moment for them to reconnect to the feed, but they do it without issue.

 

[sucre_estave]

Quote from Vista:

Here's some products from Peplink.
http://www.peplink.com/balance/tech-spec/

Since I'm not familiar with the terminology, I'm not sure if its load balancing algorithms or cable/dsl optimization that I'm looking for. Optimally, I would like to have a system that uses both cable and DSL, rather than an either/or Dual Wan system. Does this make sense? I apologize for the confusion.

It looks like in the Peplink models chart you have to use the $845 model to get cable/dsl optimization, but again I'm not sure this is what I'm after.

The dual WAN router I mentioned above can be used as an either/or or load balancer utilizing both DSL and cable.

 

[wareco]

Quote from turdlehead:

In the event a failover event occurs (regardless of the cost of the router), your trading front-end (and possibly charting, data feeds, etc.) will lose connectivity and require you re-login. Your IP (on the internet) changes and there is nothing you can do about that. Different connection, different IP to the outside world.

Mentioned so the OP does get the wrong impression. Connectivity failover is not a completely seamless event as far as trading is concerned. Applies to all applications, non-trading applications included that require log-in.

Exactly correct, which I why I abandoned a dual wan setup in favor of two separate comps using different ISPs. If I lose connectivity on the main comp. I can swing over to the other comp. quickly, where I have my log-in screen for my trading platform already up so I can log-in immediately. This allows me to be back up and running long before a dual wan switches over and I re-log-in.

 

[Vista]

Quote from turdlehead:

In the event a failover event occurs (regardless of the cost of the router), your trading front-end (and possibly charting, data feeds, etc.) will lose connectivity and require you re-login. Your IP (on the internet) changes and there is nothing you can do about that. Different connection, different IP to the outside world.

Mentioned so the OP does get the wrong impression. Connectivity failover is not a completely seamless event as far as trading is concerned. Applies to all applications, non-trading applications included that require log-in.

Yes, this is what I'd like to avoid, and the Dual Wan approach does not avoid this does it?. Sucre, can you comment on this?

That's why I'm wondering if the term cable/DSL optimization (as used in the Peplink models chart) has to do with utilizing BOTH cable and DSL at the same time, so that there is NO disconnect at all.

 

[turdlehead]

Quote from sucre_estave:

This probably depends on the application. When I've had a failover, I've never had to re-login to IB or eSignal. Takes a moment for them to reconnect to the feed, but they do it without issue.

This is completely and utterly false.
You sir, are a liar.

What your lie suggests is that I can hijack your connection, re-route to a completly different connection with a completely different IP address and wave, chuckle and grin at you and your brokerage as I use MY new account and trading tools.

We don't need no stickin passwords or security fobs.
Your IP address has now been logged.

 

[sucre_estave]

Quote from turdlehead:

This is completely and utterly false.
You sir, are a liar.

What your lie suggests is that I can hijack your connection, re-route to a completly different connection with a completely different IP address and wave, chuckle and grin at you and IB as I use my new account.

Well I must be hallucinating then. I've never had to re-login when my router has switched from cable to DSL, and that is the utter truth.

 

[Vista]

Quote from sucre_estave:

This probably depends on the application. When I've had a failover, I've never had to re-login to IB or eSignal. Takes a moment for them to reconnect to the feed, but they do it without issue.

Ok just read, so like you said, might be application specific, since wareco & turdlehead seem to have to re-login.

 

[turdlehead]

Quote from Vista:



That's why I'm wondering if the term cable/DSL optimization (as used in the Peplink models chart) has to do with utilizing BOTH cable and DSL at the same time, so that there is NO disconnect at all.

You are confusing overall internet connectivity with a specific application connection to a back-end somewhere in the world. To achieve what you suggest, you must be logged-in separately on each connection. This would require your application to accept multiple simultaneous logged-in instances. This is my last word on the subject. Yet another thread just trolling for approval of a belief system: facts are tertiary.

 

[dcvtss]

If you are trading at home and both your cable and dsl are coming on the same physical path (ie. your telephone pole) then you are not really redundant. Not trying to nitpick, just my 2 cents (and professional experience). You should really consider having something like a blackberry or telco provided wireless broadband. You can configure your blackberry to work like a modem and use it as a last resort. Just imagine a tree takes down all the wires on the pole or even if its underground the conduit can break and let water in. At some point it WILL happen.