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Quote from IShopAtPublix:

100% of the blame in this crisis goes to Wall St\Various Financial institutions."

So you're saying that a person who knowingly signed a mortgage for $2100 a month when they only make $1600 a month has no blame?

?:confused:
 
Quote from yee:

The biggest blame goes to the idiots who purchased these loans.

That would be largely FNM and FRE which were mandating by Congress and fueled by the Community Reinvestment Act to expand home ownership to those who had no business owning a home, all in the name of social progress.
 
Quote from Clubber Lang:

So you're saying that a person who knowingly signed a mortgage for $2100 a month when they only make $1600 a month has no blame?

?:confused:

Has anyone actually seen for themselves even one case where the mortgage payment at the time of closing exceeded the person's income?

No, of course not.
 
Spoken like a true loser who has zero sense of personal responsibility and who needs to be protected from himself.
Quote from jprad:

Spoken like a true populist twit lacking an ounce of common sense.

You and your ilk are a politician's wet dream...
 
Have your mother read the first post in this thread to you, moron.
Quote from jprad:

Has anyone actually seen for themselves even one case where the mortgage payment at the time of closing exceeded the person's income?

No, of course not.
 
Quote from Trader666:

It's a sign of the times of no personal responsibility when pathetic losers like you argue that people who are able to enter into legally binding contracts can't even figure out how much they can afford to pay each month.

I would not say that he is a loser. It's just a different philosophy.

One philosophy is based on personal responsibility and personal freedom and the other based on institutional responsibility and institutional freedom.

In general my observations are:

Those that can prefer personal freedom and are willing accept the responsibility that goes along with it.

Those that can't prefer institutional responsibility and do not object to institutional freedom.

What really concerns me is that the USA is rapidly leaning toward institutional responsibility and the reduced personal freedoms that come attached.
 
Quote from Trader666:

Have your mother read the first post in this thread to you, moron.

Obviously, you didn't watch the show.

If you did you'd know that the OP left out a few key facts.

She was going to cover the gap by having her sister move in and help pay the mortgage and after a year re-fi.

Now, who the fuck put the whole idea of the re-fi in her head?

Typical populist, shoot, then aim...
 
Quote from Burtakus:

What really concerns me is that the USA is rapidly leaning toward institutional responsibility and the reduced personal freedoms that come attached.
This is going to lead to a place that no one here wants to be a part of.

That's why I didn't watch the special tonite.

That's why I think these people are a bunch of idiots, and anyone who supports them is an enabler of idiots.

Ultimately, I just really happy that I don't think like that. :eek:
 
Quote from IShopAtPublix:

100% of the blame in this crisis goes to Wall St\Various Financial institutions. They were the "sophisticated" parties. If you give a 500,000 mortgage to a bum, and then are shocked the bum can't pay it is your own fault. Wall St securitized that crap and sold it to investors but in addition sold insurance on that crap to the tune of trillions. All the bums in the world could not inflict as much damage as trillions in CDS and CDOs.

They obviously deserve a huge part of the blame. But come on, if you make $1600 per month how in the world do you expect to pay for a $2100 per month mortgage. Simple math!

Just to make sure I was not missing something I asked my five year old, who's not very good at math...I said "Little B, if you have $16 would you be able to spend $21?" He looked at me like Id finally lost my mind! So, if a first grader who is not very good at math can understand the concept, I think an adult can as well.
 
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