Dakota Pipeline

I predict this is going to become a major issue when Trump takes office. You are going to have protestors that could care less about Indian burial grounds. They're going to be Trump haters and see this as an opportunity to put him in checkmate.
What can he do if there are ten thousand protestors? Call out the Guard and have another Kent State?

Interesting quagmire, and you can bet Obama had his hand in kicking this down the road for the very reason of which I write.

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Army denies Dakota pipeline permit, in victory for Native tribes
Ernest Scheyder and Valerie Volcovici
21 Mins AgoReuters



CANNON BALL, N.D./WASHINGTON, Dec 4 (Reuters) - The U.S. Army Corps of Engineers said on Sunday it turned down a permit for a controversial pipeline project running through North Dakota, in a victory for Native Americans and climate activists who have protested against the project for several months.

A celebration erupted at the main protest camp in Cannon Ball, North Dakota, where the Standing Rock Sioux tribe and others have been protesting the 1,172-mile (1,885-km) Dakota Access Pipeline for months.

The line, owned by Texas-based Energy Transfer Partners LP , had been complete except for a segment planned to run under Lake Oahe, a reservoir formed by a dam on the Missouri River.

That stretch required an easement from federal authorities, which delayed a decision on the permit twice, in an effort to consult further with the tribe.

"The Army will not grant an easement to cross Lake Oahe at the proposed location based on the current record," a statement from the U.S. Army said.

Protesters have said the $3.8 billion project could contaminate the water supply and damage sacred tribal lands.

"I hope they follow through here with this. They haven't been following the law all along. So we'll see - but this is a victory today for our people and our water," said Gerad Kipp, 44, an irrigation engineer from Missoula, Montana and a Native American.

In a statement, Standing Rock Chairman Dave Archambault II thanked activists for their support in the protest effort.

"The Standing Rock Sioux Tribe and all of Indian Country will be forever grateful to the Obama Administration for this historic decision," he said.

"We want to thank everyone who played a role in advocating for this cause. We thank the tribal youth who initiated this movement."

Jo-Ellen Darcy, the Army's Assistant Secretary for Civil Works, said in a statement the decision was based on a need to explore alternate routes for the pipeline. She said the best way to move forward was to explore alternate routes.

Protest organizers had for months argued that crossing the Missouri River adjacent to the Standing Rock Sioux Reservation presented a danger to their water source. Protests grew over the months, with hundreds of veterans flocking to the camp in recent days to stand against what they say are aggressive tactics from law enforcement.

It is unclear what the pipeline route will be, however, and any route would still likely need to cross the Missouri River, probably upstream of Lake Oahe and closer to the state capital of Bismarck. Many pipelines travel under U.S. waterways already, and pipe is considered a safer way to transport crude oil than rail.

North Dakota Senator Heidi Heitkamp, a Democrat, nodded to the fact that next steps remain unclear, saying in a statement Sunday that the pipeline "still remains in limbo."

What is also unclear as well is whether the incoming administration of Donald Trump may consider taking up Energy Transfer Partners' request yet again, and approving it. Trump's transition team last week said that he was supportive of the line, in addition to other pipeline development.

"We're hopeful that when the Trump administration takes office it will look at all of the priorities it has and that putting at risk the water supply of the Standing Rock Sioux isn't on their list," said Michael Brune, executive director of the Sierra Club

A spokesperson for Energy Transfer Partners could not immediately be reached for comment.

(Writing by David Gaffen; Editing by Alan Crosby and Chris Reese)
 
Thats exactly right. But then what? This will turn into a showdown that Trump can't win.

The National Guard will fix this problem quickly. The current problem is that they are counting on local law enforcement entities (which are now broke) to fix the situation with no federal help... with protestors on one side and private contractors on the other.

This is a good situation for Trump to show immediate backbone and make it clear that we are not going to put up with any more nonsense from violent left-wing protestors, BLM, etc.
 
The National Guard will fix this problem quickly. The current problem is that they are counting on local law enforcement entities (which are now broke) to fix the situation with no federal help... with protestors on one side and private contractors on the other.

This is a good situation for Trump to show immediate backbone and make it clear that we are not going to put up with any more nonsense from violent left-wing protestors, BLM, etc.
I don't think so GW.... just picture 1000's of Hillary whiners with nothing better to do.... the Guard will be powerless. You can't incarcerate 20,000 people. Where ya gonna put em? And you can't open fire.

I'm tellin ya.... this is gonna be big if they don't nip it in the bud right now. And I mean BIG.
 
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I don't think so GW.... just picture 1000's of Hillary whiners with nothing better to do.... the Gaurd will be powerless. You can't incarcerate 20,000 people. Where ya gonna put em? And you can't open fire.

I'm tellin ya.... this is gonna be big if they don't nip it in the bud right now. And I mean BIG.

Break out the fire hoses.

Winter is Coming!
 
Its not even a matter of "if they don't nip it in the bud".... it ain't gonna be "nipped" unless Obama shuts down all access into there. And I don't think he can, let alone the fact that I think he doesn't want to.

This is "in your face" and its going to gain strength. Trump can't win. You can't freeze people to death with fire hoses. Its gonna get ugly.
 
It will die out, just like occupy wall st. People will stop donating food to these savages and they'll eventually have to go to work. Then when they do, they'll build the pipeline. A bunch of dirt worshipers in the middle of nowhere are not going to stop a $4 billion dollar pipeline that is going to create 10k jobs and provide millions of dollars to the state.
 
Its not even a matter of "if they don't nip it in the bud".... it ain't gonna be "nipped" unless Obama shuts down all access into there. And I don't think he can, let alone the fact that I think he doesn't want to.

This is "in your face" and its going to gain strength. Trump can't win. You can't freeze people to death with fire hoses. Its gonna get ugly.

I don't think it will get "ugly". The majority of these protestors are from out of state. When Trump gets into office and desires to shut this down, a basic show of National Guard force with a few arrests will put an end to this nonsense.
 
It will die out, just like occupy wall st. People will stop donating food to these savages and they'll eventually have to go to work. Then when they do, they'll build the pipeline. A bunch of dirt worshipers in the middle of nowhere are not going to stop a $4 billion dollar pipeline that is going to create 10k jobs and provide millions of dollars to the state.
I don't think so. We'll see.
I think there is a very strong desire out there to fuck with Trump. And plenty of folks that want to do it.
This is (could be) the perfect storm for these people.
I could be wrong. Who knows.
My instincts say I'm right however.
Obama is kicking the can to Trump.
Don't forget... Idiots like Jill Stein raised 7 Million in a few days.

.... I'm tellin ya.... if this ain't nipped quick.... its gonna get ugly.
 
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