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studentofthemarkets said:
Quantum Field Theory is not as you are describing it. It is not about creating something from nothing.
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I mentioned QFT as a specific part of quantum mechanics applied to expand on how there happens to be something rather than nothing.
In that regard it most certainly does give insights about a universe from nothing.

More insights If you don't mind me saying :p than the magic imaginary sky wizard notion that you support plus all the associated horseshiite that goes with it .


If a God can be eternal then so can a Universe.

[..] the physical universe can perfectly well be self-contained; it doesn’t need anything or anyone from outside to get it started, even if it had a beginning. Sean Carroll

He is going to be more right about any of this than you are:finger:
 
murray t turtle said:
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I doubt your doubt.
I could think of several thing that could stop your ''unconditional'' unquote, love to your kids.........................................................
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Yeah. I think murder would be one of those things.

People seem to forget that mankind is guilty of murdering the Son of God when He came and visited this planet.

That God has determined that all people are guilty and that He plans on judging all people shouldn't be surprising to anyone, we know we are guilty of many things.

What is astonishing is that He would use the murder of His Son as a way to bring about reconciliation.

Why should He even want to restore a relationship with any of us? However, He does want a restored relationship. Yet, people mock Him all the more because of it, proving that they are truly wanting nothing to do with God.

God lets people reject Him and His mercy and face His judgment. He will respect their wishes and won't force anyone to repent and believe, but the Lord is "not wanting anyone to perish but everyone to come to repentance." 2 Peter 3:9
 
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studentofthemarkets said:
Yeah. I think murder would be one of those things.

People seem to forget that mankind is guilty of murdering the Son of God when He came and visited this planet.

That God has determined that all people are guilty and that He plans on judging all people shouldn't be surprising to anyone, we know we are guilty of many things.

What is astonishing is that He would use the murder of His Son as a way to bring about reconciliation.

Why should He even want to restore a relationship with any of us? However, He does want a restored relationship. Yet, people mock Him all the more because of it, proving that they are truly wanting nothing to do with God.

God lets people reject Him and His mercy and face His judgment. He will respect their wishes and won't force anyone to repent and believe, but the Lord is "not wanting anyone to perish but everyone to come to repentance." 2 Peter 3:9
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According to my understanding of the bible story, jesus wasnt murdered so much as he came to commit suicide, ie martyred himself.
If you walk into a jewish temple and overturn tables and speak out against the ruling jewish priests, considering also 2000 years ago justice was meted out more severely than today, well what did jesus expect, roses?
This nursery ryhme about poor innocent jesus murdered, more sympathy bs, never ending.
 
themickey said:
According to my understanding of the bible story, jesus wasnt murdered so much as he came to commit suicide, ie martyred himself.
If you walk into a jewish temple and overturn tables and speak out against the ruling jewish priests, considering also 2000 years ago justice was meted out more severely than today, well what did jesus expect, roses?
This nursery ryhme about poor innocent jesus murdered, more sympathy bs, never ending.
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The really sick thing about it is that it was the Jews who wanted him dead. He was one of their own. So they present him to Pontius Pilate and say "We want you to punish one of our own"!

Pilate's all like, "I see no guilt in this man. You tell ME what you really want done with him."

They all say, "Put him to death!"

Jerks.
 
If you shit stir during the jewish passover in Jerusalem when the city is crowded and the Romans didn't want a riot, it's not like 'poor innocent jesus' was not looking for trouble.
His sole purpose on earth was to die at the hands of men as a sacrifice according to the bs bible, how is it christians lament the crucifiction? Answer; christians love emotional tear jerking sob stories, gets more converts through the door and to the tithing plate.
 
The church preys on the stupid and gullible (often young or desperate) as converts, those least likely to be able to afford the tithe which the church subtly demands by playing on their conscience.
One sob story after another, sob jesus, now please help out the sob church.
 
themickey said:
If you shit stir during the jewish passover in Jerusalem when the city is crowded and the Romans didn't want a riot, it's not like 'poor innocent jesus' was not looking for trouble.
His sole purpose on earth was to die at the hands of men as a sacrifice according to the bs bible, how is it christians lament the crucifiction? Answer; christians love emotional tear jerking sob stories, gets more converts through the door and to the tithing plate.
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Jesus suffered excruciating pain when He died and Christians who love Him hate that it was our sin that was the cause of His suffering....yet we know that He doesn't hold it against us believers, because He loves us so much that He washes away all our sins.

Although His purpose was to provide a sacrifice, it also demonstrated the wickedness that exists in people's hearts. The people who made the decisions that led to His death made the choices of their own free will. Jesus said this about Judas:

"The Son of Man will go just as it is written about Him, but woe to that man by whom He is betrayed. It would be better for him if he had not been born.”
Matthew 26:24
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Jesus didn't commit any crimes. The tables He overturned were not supposed to be there. Jesus always--and only--did what was right.


33 “Hear another parable: There was a certain landowner who planted a vineyard and set a hedge around it, dug a winepress in it and built a tower. And he leased it to vinedressers and went into a far country. 34 Now when vintage-time drew near, he sent his servants to the vinedressers, that they might receive its fruit. 35 And the vinedressers took his servants, beat one, killed one, and stoned another. 36 Again he sent other servants, more than the first, and they did likewise to them. 37 Then last of all he sent his son to them, saying, ‘They will respect my son.’ 38 But when the vinedressers saw the son, they said among themselves, ‘This is the heir. Come, let us kill him and seize his inheritance.’ 39 So they took him and cast him out of the vineyard and killed him.​

40 “Therefore, when the owner of the vineyard comes, what will he do to those vinedressers?”​

41 They said to Him, “He will destroy those wicked men miserably, and lease his vineyard to other vinedressers who will render to him the fruits in their seasons.”
Matthew 26:33-41 NKJV​
 
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