Dabrowski's Theory of Positive Disintegration and the ET Klannish

[ZZZzzzzzzz]

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Looks like I am going to have to get out the old Photo-shop and change it from "I am ratboy to "we" are ratboy....

Quote from ratboy88:

ZZZzzenu still loves his sickle... don't let him fool you. in his heated Klannish moment he just made a booboo.

 

[Rearden Metal]

Quote from ZZZzzzzzzz:

Confusion from the genius?

LMAO...

I mock the fake libertarians here at will, you know the ones who talk the game, but don't actually put their principles on the line for the "cause" of Libertarianism.

The fake libertarians here take no personal risk in their libertarianism...they just like to bitch and moan like the pseudo libertarians and social misfits they are...

Anytime you want to use your "fortune and ET fame" to help with the drug laws, stage protests, which naturally your billions of Howard Hughes like fortune can fund, then get arrested in a very public way for drug laws, then of course go on a hunger strike and then the grass roots multitude of ET klannish followers will write their congressmen and stage massive public protests...

All for the cause, doncha know...

But then, after all is said and done, all a junkie just really really really wants to do is get high and do teenage Russian sluts...

You expect me to desire personal suffering for the good of the collective? Wrong address, fool!

You're confusing me with Wael- It's HIS (Pali) culture that holds martyrdom in the highest regard, not mine. Libertarians are not, nor have we ever been known to be martyrs.

Furthermore, it's completely pointless to accuse me of selfishness and hedonism, since I've already admitted these things on numerous occasions here. Unlike you, I freely admit what I am.

 

[ratboy88]

Quote from ZZZzzzzzzz:


Looks like I am going to have to get out the old Photo-shop and change it from "I am ratboy to "we" are ratboy....

oh you silly klannish... where do you ever come up with these monkey shines?

 

[Rearden Metal]

This is just too easy. Here you go:

http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=29854&perpage=10&pagenumber=2

03-17-04
QUOTE FROM Rearden Metal:

Religion is only one part of the whole- COLLECTIVIST THEORY.

Look at all of the worst attrocities ever committed by mankind: Holocaust, Spanish Inquisition, Stalin's artificial famines, Rape of Nanking, etc...
All were perpetrated for the 'good of society' . All were committed because collectivist thinking puts 'society' ahead of the individual.

There is no such entity as SOCIETY. 'SOCIETY' can't think, feel, or care what is good for it. There are only individuals, and only individuals matter.

Yes, I realize this concept may be way above the heads of many on this board...

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03-17-04
QUOTE FROM ARogueTrader (Banned LoZZZer alias):

No such entity as society?

That is like saying no such entity as a family.....

Or no such entity as a team.....

Or there is no such entity as a gaggle of geese, a pack of wolves, a pride of lions.....

It is the proper balance between the needs of the collective and the needs of the individual that enhances both the collective and individual accordingly.

Yes, I realize this concept may be way above the heads of many on this board...

<b>`No Man is an Island`

No man is an island, entire of itself; every man is a piece of the continent, a part of the main.

If a clod be washed away by the sea, Europe is the less, as well as if a promontory were, as well as if a manor of they friends`s or of thine own were.

Any man`s death diminishes me, because I am involved in mankind. And therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls; it tolls for thee.

John Donne (1572 - 1631) </b>

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03-17-04
QUOTE FROM Rearden Metal:

The above collectivist thinking by our very own Dr. Floyd Ferris is exactly why governments commit attrocities against individuals for the good of 'society', 'the white race', 'Allah', etc...

Borg thinking of this sort often results in individuals' rights getting trampled for the good of some imaginary non-entity. It happens over and over again throughout history, yet the collectivists never learn.

_________________

03-17-04
QUOTE FROM LoZZZer:

... It is not us and them, it is after all we.

 

[ZZZzzzzzzz]

No, I don't expect you to actually do anything for the good of the collective group of ET klannish or for any particular individual....

I don't expect "stuck at level one" to give a hoot about anyone but themselves...Libertarians are likely the most selfish group of folks out there, rationalizing away their narcissism as Randites usually do...

However, thanks mucho for helping to make the point of this thread...your clear admission and status of "stuck on level one" is not really a revelation, but puts your "I can help you with bupe" in its correct light...let no one mistake your wanting to help some poor soul suffering with mental illness as anything even resembling altruism...in addition it shows the lack of "gifted" status that you are constantly claiming to be privy to...as the theory of Debrowski is mostly about the evolution of the genuinely gifted.

p.s. Many good Jews in the 60's in America risked their lives for civil rights of other minority groups, their altruism was borne out of knowing real persecution, not some imaginary fantasy pain from an opinion on an anonymous message board...I don't count you among that group of very good Jews.

Quote from Rearden Metal:

You expect me to desire personal suffering for the good of the collective? Wrong address, fool!

You're confusing me with Wael- It's HIS (Pali) culture that holds martyrdom in the highest regard, not mine. Libertarians are not, nor have we ever been known to be martyrs.

Furthermore, it's completely pointless to accuse me of selfishness and hedonism, since I've already admitted these things on numerous occasions here. Unlike you, I freely admit what I am.

 

[ZZZzzzzzzz]

What a kick watching you defend the "we and us" of ratboy the pseudo libertarian by trying to make it all about me.

Just keep telling everyone I am not in your head, I am sure they will buy it...

Quote from Rearden Metal:

This is just too easy. Here you go:

http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=29854&perpage=10&pagenumber=2

03-17-04
QUOTE FROM Rearden Metal:

Religion is only one part of the whole- COLLECTIVIST THEORY.

Look at all of the worst attrocities ever committed by mankind: Holocaust, Spanish Inquisition, Stalin's artificial famines, Rape of Nanking, etc...
All were perpetrated for the 'good of society' . All were committed because collectivist thinking puts 'society' ahead of the individual.

There is no such entity as SOCIETY. 'SOCIETY' can't think, feel, or care what is good for it. There are only individuals, and only individuals matter.

Yes, I realize this concept may be way above the heads of many on this board...

_______________

03-17-04
QUOTE FROM ARogueTrader (Banned LoZZZer alias):

No such entity as society?

That is like saying no such entity as a family.....

Or no such entity as a team.....

Or there is no such entity as a gaggle of geese, a pack of wolves, a pride of lions.....

It is the proper balance between the needs of the collective and the needs of the individual that enhances both the collective and individual accordingly.

Yes, I realize this concept may be way above the heads of many on this board...

<b>`No Man is an Island`

No man is an island, entire of itself; every man is a piece of the continent, a part of the main.

If a clod be washed away by the sea, Europe is the less, as well as if a promontory were, as well as if a manor of they friends`s or of thine own were.

Any man`s death diminishes me, because I am involved in mankind. And therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls; it tolls for thee.

John Donne (1572 - 1631) </b>

_________

03-17-04
QUOTE FROM Rearden Metal:

The above collectivist thinking by our very own Dr. Floyd Ferris is exactly why governments commit attrocities against individuals for the good of 'society', 'the white race', 'Allah', etc...

Borg thinking of this sort often results in individuals' rights getting trampled for the good of some imaginary non-entity. It happens over and over again throughout history, yet the collectivists never learn.

_________________

03-17-04
QUOTE FROM LoZZZer:

... It is not us and them, it is after all we.

 

[Rearden Metal]

Quote from ZZZzzzzzzz:



However, thanks mucho for helping to make the point of this thread...your clear admission and status of "stuck on level one" is not really a revelation, but puts your "I can help you with bupe" in its correct light...let no one mistake your wanting to help some poor soul suffering with mental illness as anything even resembling altruism...in addition it shows the lack of "gifted" status that you are constantly claiming to be privy to...as the theory of Debrowski is mostly about the evolution of the genuinely gifted.

If you saw all the grateful letters I get every week from those who've benefited so greatly from my writings on Endorphin Deficiency depression, you'd know otherwise. Just read the 'comments' section at the bottom of my website to get a small taste.

I do this one altruistic thing because I get so much 'leverage' on the play; i.e., just a minimal effort on my part has literally resulted in saved lives. I can't pass up that kind of opportunity.

You, on the other hand, not only make every effort NOT to be helpful to anyone with anything, ever- you actually deny the obvious regarding what I've done... and even stoop so low as to try and sabotage my efforts. Wretched creature...

 

[Haroki]

Quote from ZZZzzzzzzz:

...........ratboy the pseudo libertarian.............

Damn, we agree about something....

Ratboy is no Libertarian, he's just a non thinking sheep following Alex Jones.

He just wants to pretend like he's the coolest guy at the coffeeshop.

What a waste of protoplasm he is...............

 

[ZZZzzzzzzz]

It is all about you and your site, isn't it?

What a narcissist...

No way in hell this is altruism, it is nothing but another in a long line of ET and related ego trips...ego stepping I call it. Why not just take out a full page in the ad in the Tribune saying "Look at me, I'm altruistic!"

Now be a good puppy, please, tell everyone reading this thread that "you are immune to the creature."

ROTFLMAO....

Quote from Rearden Metal:

If you saw all the grateful letters I get every week from those who've benefited so greatly from my writings on Endorphin Deficiency depression, you'd know otherwise. Just read the 'comments' section at the bottom of my website to get a small taste.

I do this one altruistic thing because I get so much 'leverage' on the play; i.e., just a minimal effort on my part has literally resulted in saved lives. I can't pass up that kind of opportunity.

You, on the other hand, not only make every effort NOT to be helpful to anyone with anything, ever- you actually deny the obvious regarding what I've done... and even stoop so low as to try and sabotage my efforts. Wretched creature...

 

[ratboy88]

Quote from Haroki:

Damn, we agree about something....

Ratboy is no Libertarian, he's just a non thinking sheep following Alex Jones.

He just wants to pretend like he's the coolest guy at the coffeeshop.

What a waste of protoplasm he is...............

please show me one post where i claimed to be a Libertarian..... in fact i have said that im not a libertarian. i have voted libertarian as a protest vote but i am an independent. ask rearden, we have had this discussion before.

and i am not an alex jones sheep. in fact, i don't really follow anyone lock step like you do the neocons. alex jones does some good research but he definitely has some question marks.

all i want is the truth and i know it has been suppressed for so long. sorry i don't fall for scams like the pancake theory shiroki. i know that was a big let down for you.