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Not surprising anyone - Trump's DOD appointees refused to send in the National Guard to quell the insurrection.

Maryland Governor Says Pentagon ‘Repeatedly Denied’ Approval To Send National Guard To Capitol
https://www.forbes.com/sites/andrew...nd-national-guard-to-capitol/?sh=5c81393c6cb4

Maryland Gov. Larry Hogan said Thursday that the Department of Defense “repeatedly denied” to authorize deployment of Maryland’s National Guard troops to help quell violence at the Capitol on Wednesday.
  • Hogan said during a press conference that he convened an emergency meeting of his “unified command team” when he was informed of a mob of Trump supporters descending on the Capitol as lawmakers attempted to certify President-elect Joe Biden’s victory.
  • Hogan says he mobilized 200 “specially trained” state troopers and instructed Maj. Gen. Timothy Gowen, the general of the Maryland National Guard, to mobilize his troops.
  • House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer called Hogan from an “undisclosed bunker” and were “pleading” with him for assistance from his state and national forces, the governor said.
  • However, Hogan, who requires the Department of Defense’s authority to mobilize his National Guard troops, said he was “repeatedly denied” approval to do so from the Pentagon despite being “ready, willing and able” to assist.
  • Hogan said he had a “back and forth trying to get that authorization” and that, about an hour and a half later, Secretary of the Army Ryan McCarthy gave approval to send his troops to Washington, D.C.
  • Forbes has reached out to the Department of Defense for comment.
Key Background
Federal authorities were not guarding the Capitol at the time of the attack, leaving the job to the Capitol Police, who were quickly overrun by the mob.

Chief Critic
President Trump reportedly refused initial requests to send in the National Guard, with Vice President Mike Pence ultimately interfacing with Defense Department officials and giving the order to mobilize units.

Surprising Fact
Hogan, a Republican, called for President Trump’s removal in the wake of the attack. "I think there's no question that America would be better off if the president would resign or be removed from office,” he said.

that's absolutely ... wow ...
 
Not surprising anyone - Trump's DOD appointees refused to send in the National Guard to quell the insurrection.

Maryland Governor Says Pentagon ‘Repeatedly Denied’ Approval To Send National Guard To Capitol
https://www.forbes.com/sites/andrew...nd-national-guard-to-capitol/?sh=5c81393c6cb4

Maryland Gov. Larry Hogan said Thursday that the Department of Defense “repeatedly denied” to authorize deployment of Maryland’s National Guard troops to help quell violence at the Capitol on Wednesday.
  • Hogan said during a press conference that he convened an emergency meeting of his “unified command team” when he was informed of a mob of Trump supporters descending on the Capitol as lawmakers attempted to certify President-elect Joe Biden’s victory.
  • Hogan says he mobilized 200 “specially trained” state troopers and instructed Maj. Gen. Timothy Gowen, the general of the Maryland National Guard, to mobilize his troops.
  • House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer called Hogan from an “undisclosed bunker” and were “pleading” with him for assistance from his state and national forces, the governor said.
  • However, Hogan, who requires the Department of Defense’s authority to mobilize his National Guard troops, said he was “repeatedly denied” approval to do so from the Pentagon despite being “ready, willing and able” to assist.
  • Hogan said he had a “back and forth trying to get that authorization” and that, about an hour and a half later, Secretary of the Army Ryan McCarthy gave approval to send his troops to Washington, D.C.
  • Forbes has reached out to the Department of Defense for comment.
Key Background
Federal authorities were not guarding the Capitol at the time of the attack, leaving the job to the Capitol Police, who were quickly overrun by the mob.

Chief Critic
President Trump reportedly refused initial requests to send in the National Guard, with Vice President Mike Pence ultimately interfacing with Defense Department officials and giving the order to mobilize units.

Surprising Fact
Hogan, a Republican, called for President Trump’s removal in the wake of the attack. "I think there's no question that America would be better off if the president would resign or be removed from office,” he said.
Words matter and sometimes it is importnat to get the exact words correct. The Forbes report does not agree with what Governor Hogan said or with the earlier report of the same incident on MSNBC, which was in line with what Governor Hogan said later on national television. Specifically, Governor Hogan did not say he was " 'repeatedly denied' approval".
What he said was that he was required to get approval from the Secretary of Defense before Maryland, National Guard Troops could be deployed to D.C. Hogan said he tried to contact the DOD Secretary but was unable to. He said about an hour and a half later he was contacted on his cell phone by the Secretary of the Army who gave him the authorization he needed.

There is a difference between being 'repeatedly denied' and experiencing a delay in reaching the proper authority. In the former case, 'repeatedly denied' implies someone with authority withheld authorization. In the latter case, the implication is that there was either an unintentional or intentional delay or failure to get messaging through to the person with authority, or the person with authority did receive the message but delayed acting on the message.
 
If the FBI doesn't get them... COVID will.

CDC director warns of Covid-19 surge after US Capitol riot
https://edition.cnn.com/world/live-...s-01-08-21/h_d2de0722eb443b721169ec7b778a3bcb

US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention Director Dr. Robert Redfield warned that the riots at the US Capitol on Wednesday was likely a coronavirus “surge event” and “is going to have public health consequences.”

In an interview with the McClatchy newspaper group on Friday, Redfield called the riots a “very, very sad day” and expressed concern that members of Congress and law enforcement could have been exposed by the pro-Trump mob, perpetuating the spread of coronavirus.

“I do think you have to anticipate that this is another surge event. You had largely unmasked individuals in a non-distanced fashion, who were all through the Capitol,” Redfield told McClatchy.
“Then these individuals all are going in cars and trains and planes going home all across the country right now. So I do think this is an event that will probably lead to a significant spreading event,” Redfield said.

On Thursday, the US reported more than 4,000 deaths from coronavirus for the first time. Redfield warned that the numbers are likely to increase.

“We’re going to continue to see mortality in the 2,500-5,000 a day range,” Redfield said. “This is going to continue to get worse through January, and probably parts of February before we really start to turn the corner.”

“We haven’t hit the peak of the current surge,” he added. “Clearly, the amount of mortality we’re seeing, as many of us are trying to stress, is more than we saw on Pearl Harbor or 9/11, over and over and over again. That’s the state of the pandemic unfortunately we’re at right now.”
 
One issue Dems have is they have one-sided and short term memory..

What happened at the Capitol was widely condemned even with a vocal few claiming it was "necessary" or whatever bullshit. But Dems were having a lot of fun this summer during a COVID pandemic. To me they are as full of shit to start taking the high ground on some of these issues no matter how bad the attack on the Capitol was.


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One issue Dems have is they have one-sided and short term memory..

What happened at the Capitol was widely condemned even with a vocal few claiming it was "necessary" or whatever bullshit. But Dems were having a lot of fun this summer during a COVID pandemic. To me they are as full of shit to start taking the high ground on some of these issues no matter how bad the attack on the Capitol was.


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apples and oranges Ocho. If there was evidence the election was stolen as perceived by these people then we'd have their back. Plenty of evidence of blacks being shot w/o cause.
 
apples and oranges Ocho. If there was evidence the election was stolen as perceived by these people then we'd have their back. Plenty of evidence of blacks being shot w/o cause.


Yeah but does that mean the protestors should storm government buildings and burn down property and be goaded by politicians to keep on fighting. Isn't that going to send the wrong message to the bad elements who see that as a rallying cry to fight with weapons and fire? Won't violent BLM factions see that as support to take down the police and government buildings? I walked around D.C. in August and you have to see how many businesses were boarded up witin an 8 block radius. Was Versace responsible for violent police officers?

You are focused on the rationale from one being a fake claim and one being a valid one but the response in both cases is wrong and the politicians acting in that way is equally wrong.

Speaking up and protesting and standing with the victims is not the same as rallying calls to burn down cities and riot and cause violence which how some interpreted it.

Harris can say she never told people to burn down the Wendy's or storm the police station..

It is time for both sides to stop the bullshit that the hypocrisy does not include them.


Many GOP members criticized heavily what happened to the Capitol and even saw Fox News calling it out harshly, lets ignore the Cruz and other fucktards. This summer, there was not the same unity in the violence sweeping the streets and the looting going on on live TV.

Trump rally would have been fine if it stayed on the Mall and the BLM protests would have been fine marching down the streets. Both had elements take it to an unacceptable level,,,
 
apples and oranges Ocho. If there was evidence the election was stolen as perceived by these people then we'd have their back. Plenty of evidence of blacks being shot w/o cause.


If there was true evidence it would have been handled properly in a court of law so no need to have anyone's backs for true claims. In many cop shootings the system was failing and protests were proper but why should businesses that had nothing to do with it get looted and raided and burned down...the Wendy's where that guy got shot had nothing to do with it.
 
If there was true evidence it would have been handled properly in a court of law so no need to have anyone's backs for true claims. In many cop shootings the system was failing and protests were proper but why should businesses that had nothing to do with it get looted and raided and burned down...the Wendy's where that guy got shot had nothing to do with it.
Well, let's not make it sound like the dems were for private property destruction like those memes implied. The context was on support of protesters against the system's failings. Getting on a lawmaker's face is still protected speech even if uncomfortable. You create a system that will not address the issues of the masses (a court of law that keeps giving cops a pass), what's the expectation?

"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable."
 
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