a) The fractional reserve banking system has worked for decades and I would claim has never really failed. Almost never has a depositor whose funds were insured in ANY jurisdiction lost his money in the end due to a banking crisis. Please show me an example. You should be careful to not fall victim to spurious correlation. Hyper inflation or other economic crises cannot be traced back to a faulty fractional reserve banking system. A dictator who nationalizes assets is not related to a faulty fractional reserve banking system, there is simply not logical relationship between the two.
b) yes smarter and ethical people bank at smart locations and smart institutions. There are tons of people on this site, I am willing to wager, who traded through Cyprus-based shady retail brokerage houses who did not honor their commitments, front-ran clients, including outright theft without the slightest protection in favor of clients. Why would an intelligent person want to do trade with such institution? Why would an intelligent person bank with a Cyprus bank domiciled in a country that is about to blow up (its not that their CDS spresds widened overnight, the precarious situation has been known for many months) UNLESS you believe you can get out even when the house is burning (which implies you profit from insider knowledge and preferential treatment).
c) Yes, I would have never and will never bank with anyone in Cyprus. Nor would I ever bank with an institution in the Ukraine or Russia for that matter. I miss out on opportunities and yield but I just am not willing to take such risk. So, does that put me into the camp of the smarter people on this planet? Long-term probably yes, in the middle of boom cycles probably not. You chose.
d) Nobody in Cyprus is living on the street BECAUSE they could not get more than 100 euros per day out of their ATMs. Please play the ball low and do not be such a drama queen. Nor has anybody with insured deposits lost a penny, and even in the worst case a 6.75% haircut that was on the table for deposits <100k initially took 6750 euros out of your pockets, you are telling us that the average citizen did not benefit by a multiple of that over the past 9 years Cyprus has enjoyed all the EU privileges that they cheated themselves into? Are you suggesting that all economic evil in this world is brought upon by corrupt and greedy politicians and bankers? That the US financial crisis had nothing to do with the greed of the average person on the street wanting to believe they deserve their own house and 2 cars and annual vacation no matter how little their income. Are you trying to convince us that Cyprus's situation is because a few bankers and politicians had just a few too many good times and squandered wealth? Please, tell me you at least see a reasonable amount of responsibility lying in the laps of every citizen.
b) yes smarter and ethical people bank at smart locations and smart institutions. There are tons of people on this site, I am willing to wager, who traded through Cyprus-based shady retail brokerage houses who did not honor their commitments, front-ran clients, including outright theft without the slightest protection in favor of clients. Why would an intelligent person want to do trade with such institution? Why would an intelligent person bank with a Cyprus bank domiciled in a country that is about to blow up (its not that their CDS spresds widened overnight, the precarious situation has been known for many months) UNLESS you believe you can get out even when the house is burning (which implies you profit from insider knowledge and preferential treatment).
c) Yes, I would have never and will never bank with anyone in Cyprus. Nor would I ever bank with an institution in the Ukraine or Russia for that matter. I miss out on opportunities and yield but I just am not willing to take such risk. So, does that put me into the camp of the smarter people on this planet? Long-term probably yes, in the middle of boom cycles probably not. You chose.
d) Nobody in Cyprus is living on the street BECAUSE they could not get more than 100 euros per day out of their ATMs. Please play the ball low and do not be such a drama queen. Nor has anybody with insured deposits lost a penny, and even in the worst case a 6.75% haircut that was on the table for deposits <100k initially took 6750 euros out of your pockets, you are telling us that the average citizen did not benefit by a multiple of that over the past 9 years Cyprus has enjoyed all the EU privileges that they cheated themselves into? Are you suggesting that all economic evil in this world is brought upon by corrupt and greedy politicians and bankers? That the US financial crisis had nothing to do with the greed of the average person on the street wanting to believe they deserve their own house and 2 cars and annual vacation no matter how little their income. Are you trying to convince us that Cyprus's situation is because a few bankers and politicians had just a few too many good times and squandered wealth? Please, tell me you at least see a reasonable amount of responsibility lying in the laps of every citizen.
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Just think only a week ago, accounts over 100K were safe as well. Today they are not apparently.
If fractional reserve worked so well, what happened in 2008 when liquidity disappeared? Why did the FED and governments react and why is there unemployment? Didn't they know that "even then no money is lost"? Was it just a case of bigger company tards? Apparently the smarter the people are the easier to predict the future, using that reasoning you must be one of the richest people on earth. You apparently knew all this would happen long enough ahead to withdraw all your money.
The ones in front of the bank are the ordinary people that need food, water, gasoline etc. and don't have wads of cash stored at home. They had total trust in money. Never thought about it being a derivative. They can't live off physical money itself. Having no money and no bread doesn't get you anything either. May as well stand in line.
The breakdown of trust came from the system breaking down, not the other way around. How can the system break down if it is so great? Do we need more tard laws?