CV not even remotely close to being priced in

trading_jean said:
You might be right about dividing the numbers by 2 is not enough; different studies on the subject show very different results. Some studies suggest there are not that many unreported cases in western countries, others argue that only 1 out of 5 cases get reported (1 out of 3 for US in that study). So dividing by 3 or 4 might be as likely, but dividing by 10 is not supported by what we know so far.

A question: how do those 30+ you know that had it know they had it if they didn't get tested?

Not saying all countries should remain in lockdown for the next three years. But local lockdowns, or temporary lockdowns might be necessary again. Mass events probably are not a good idea for a while. And many smaller measures will be necessary for a while as well (masks, social distancing, screens, ...).

Basically what most countries are doing: monitoring on a daily basis and relieving measures when possible/re-introducing measures when necessary.
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Look at Sweden, if it wasn't for the Media scaring everyone, we could of just protected the old / ill, in the UK, not lockdown get it spread asap with few deaths as it's only killed 1000 ( 800 with health issues, 200 without ), be over soon and old / ill could be back out enjoying what's left of there lives pretty soon.

UK, the lockdowns where 2 - 3 weeks too late for the old / ill, intentionally I think, by the time the lockdowns had came they'd already had it.

Shielding stopping soon, so it'll get around those that have avoided it.

The millions of unemployeed, ruined business and we've got kids terrified there going to die when they really aren't at all, mentally screwed up for life, super snowflakes :(
 
trading_jean said:
You might be right about dividing the numbers by 2 is not enough; different studies on the subject show very different results. Some studies suggest there are not that many unreported cases in western countries, others argue that only 1 out of 5 cases get reported (1 out of 3 for US in that study). So dividing by 3 or 4 might be as likely, but dividing by 10 is not supported by what we know so far.

A question: how do those 30+ you know that had it know they had it if they didn't get tested?

Not saying all countries should remain in lockdown for the next three years. But local lockdowns, or temporary lockdowns might be necessary again. Mass events probably are not a good idea for a while. And many smaller measures will be necessary for a while as well (masks, social distancing, screens, ...).

Basically what most countries are doing: monitoring on a daily basis and relieving measures when possible/re-introducing measures when necessary.
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Don't forget the real leaked opinion of Germany.

https://www.globalresearch.ca/germa...-denouncing-corona-global-false-alarm/5714528

  • The dangerousness of Covid-19 was overestimated: probably at no point did the danger posed by the new virus go beyond the normal level.
  • The people who die from Corona are essentially those who would statistically die this year, because they have reached the end of their lives and their weakened bodies can no longer cope with any random everyday stress (including the approximately 150 viruses currently in circulation).
  • Worldwide, within a quarter of a year, there has been no more than 250,000 deaths from Covid-19, compared to 1.5 million deaths [25,100 in Germany] during the influenza wave 2017/18.
  • The danger is obviously no greater than that of many other viruses. There is no evidence that this was more than a false alarm.
  • A reproach could go along these lines: During the Corona crisis the State has proved itself as one of the biggest producers of Fake News.

 
Turveyd said:
All just media fear, it's really not that bad, no 2nd waves just a 0.1% death rate give or take to get to, and the market knows this and the market knows it'll reverse strong which is why there in long already for that ride.

When people realise they've been played and the media is lying to them or over reacting, happening more and more all the time then the Media will reverse there fear and jump on the we are all going to be fine band wagon and ride that train.
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We're living through the biggest hoax in modern history.
 
d08 said:
Don't bother with @Turveyd, he makes numbers up on the spot.

It was mayhem in many hospitals from what I hear. Many nurses quit because the situation was so dire, dead bodies being shipped out in bulk.
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From my GF, who used to be an ICU nurse: nurses and respiratory therapists are getting $10k-$15k per week to work in COVID "combat zones" like NYC, etc. A quick search of the web confirms. And given how many nurses and doctors we're losing due to insufficient PPE, etc., that's only going to go up.
 
BlueWaterSailor said:
From my GF, who used to be an ICU nurse: nurses and respiratory therapists are getting $10k-$15k per week to work in COVID "combat zones" like NYC, etc. A quick search of the web confirms. And given how many nurses and doctors we're losing due to insufficient PPE, etc., that's only going to go up.
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UK that was proven to be a hoax on the Doctors / Nurses dying, for there age group they where dying at exactly the same rate as normal people, so if they where florists that caught the virus they'd of still died the same. ( Catching sooner maybe, like a shop worker )

UK there are 1.2Mil or 1.4Mil NHS Staff so 120 dead from vague memory is only 0.01%, where UK death rate is 0.07% currently, not many 85+ year olds

But shhhhh 15K per week for a nurse, lets not ruin there little party.
 
Turveyd said:
BLM trying to Defund police is just silly, it'll never happen
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It appears that you have no idea what the term Defund The Police means. It does not mean abolishing the police. It means to take some money, and functions, allocated to police departments, and shift the money/functions to other government agencies. For example, why does a cop have to be called to handle a routing traffic accident? Defunding the police is already happening, largest example is New York City announcing a $1 Billion reallocation last week.
 
DaveV said:
It appears that you have no idea what the term Defund The Police means. It does not mean abolishing the police. It means to take some money, and functions, allocated to police departments, and shift the money/functions to other government agencies. For example, why does a cop have to be called to handle a routing traffic accident? Defunding the police is already happening, largest example is New York City announcing a $1 Billion reallocation last week.
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You'd be correct, I didn't thanks for the catch up :)
 
Turveyd said:
UK that was proven to be a hoax
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Uh-huh.

You clearly have a problem with the basics of language - or even simple comprehension. It may be insufficient education, it may be your fanaticism - most likely both... I don't really care. But you really, really need to look up the word "proven" in the dictionary, and study it until you actually understand it. It might take a few years, and you'll most likely need expert help.

But until you do, you're woefully under-equipped for the job of discussing how to mop a floor properly - much less issues like COVID.
 
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