Cut the Crap About Red States Subsidizing Blue States

[UsualName]

this is why you can't argue with a lefty... they don't acknowledge facts.

I told you every poll I have ever read shows those with high school education and lower are democrats. you asked me to back up my statement.

I backed it up with polls from pew and the washington post.
I also explained how it matches reality.

Yet somehow you twist everything that I said and present a steaming pile of contorted bullshit to get around the fact you were dead ass wrong and made shit up.

I explained to you the poll you cited from pew shows democrats outnumber republicans in every educational category because it’s a survey of party affiliation, not voters.

The poll (survey really) you provided shows there are more REGISTERED democrats with:

High school or less
College &
Post graduate

This is because there are more registered democrats IN TOTAL than republicans and they are just looking at the raw numbers. I and another poster showed you the majority of VOTERS with a high school diploma or less voted for Trump.

This isn’t complicated.

 

[jem]

You asked me to support this statement.
"I have seen many surveys of the country and the democrats typically have a very clear majority of least educated voters."

I did... see below.
everything you have written since is irrelevant.
democrats do have a clear majority of the least educated voters...


here is a quote from the survey.

"There has been less change since 2010 in the partisan leanings of those with less education.college but have not received a degree lean Democratic 47% to 42%; Democrats hold a 10-point lead in leaned party identification among those with no more than a high school education (47% to 37%)."

I explained to you the poll you cited from pew shows democrats outnumber republicans in every educational category because it’s a survey of party affiliation, not voters.

The poll (survey really) you provided shows there are more REGISTERED democrats with:

High school or less
College &
Post graduate

This is because there are more registered democrats IN TOTAL than republicans and they are just looking at the raw numbers. I and another poster showed you the majority of VOTERS with a high school diploma or less voted for Trump.

This isn’t complicated.

 

[UsualName]

You asked me to support this statement.
"I have seen many surveys of the country and the democrats typically have a very clear majority of least educated voters."

I did... see below.
everything you have written since is irrelevant.
democrats do have a clear majority of the least educated voters...


here is a quote from the survey.

"There has been less change since 2010 in the partisan leanings of those with less education.college but have not received a degree lean Democratic 47% to 42%; Democrats hold a 10-point lead in leaned party identification among those with no more than a high school education (47% to 37%)."

Let’s try it this way.

Can you explain why democrats outnumber republicans in every education level in the pew survey you cited?

 

[jem]

Why try it that way?
you are trying to make a distinction which makes no difference.

after challenging my statement... which I did not really mind.
and then my proving my statement with surveys... we now both know democrats do have a clear majority of the least educated voters.

We already knew there are more democrats than republicans.
no one is arguing the point you are now trying to illustrate.

Let’s try it this way.

Can you explain why democrats outnumber republicans in every education level in the pew survey you cited?

 

[UsualName]

can you explain why it why that would impact whether or not my statement was accurate?
after challenging my statement... which was fine.
and me proving my statement... which was cool.
democrats do have a clear majority of the least educated voters.

you are not trying to create a distinction which makes no difference.
We know there are more democrats than republicans. no one is arguing that point.

I can explain: because there are more registered democrats than registered republicans and the survey you cited only looks at registration, registered democrats lead in every educational level. Obviously Trump could not win that way.

If you go all the way back you will see the dispute is over voters, not party affiliation.

 

[piezoe]

It does not change the fact that by allowing these deductions, anyone who doesn't take the deduction is subsidizing those that do.

I didn't know you favored higher taxes on the wealthy or lower taxes on labor or both, but it's a position I can't argue with.

 

[jem]

I wonder if you are just making up more shit up right now.
do you have any proof for your assertion about the survey only looking at registration?

the survey questions I read asked about party identification not registration.

"PARTY: In politics TODAY, do you consider yourself a Republican, Democrat, or independent?

PARTYLN: As of today do you lean more to the Republican Party or more to the Democratic Party?"

would you link to where you got the info for your assertion about them only looking at registration.

additionally they seem they have an unweighted column in the survey.

So if its true that they weighted the survey your assertion is totally wrong.

I can explain: because there are more registered democrats than registered republicans and the survey you cited only looks at registration, registered democrats lead in every educational level. Obviously Trump could not win that way.

If you go all the way back you will see the dispute is over voters, not party affiliation.

 

[UsualName]

I wonder if you are just making up more shit up right now.
do you have any proof for your assertion about the survey only looking at registration?

the survey questions I read asked about party identification not registration.

"PARTY: In politics TODAY, do you consider yourself a Republican, Democrat, or independent?

PARTYLN: As of today do you lean more to the Republican Party or more to the Democratic Party?"

would you link to where you got the info for your assertion about them only looking at registration.

additionally they seem they have an unweighted column in the survey.

So if its true that they weighted the survey your assertion is totally wrong.

It’s the same difference, still not voters.

 

[jem]

so you just made shit up with no basis for your assertion and won't provide a link.

It’s the same difference, still not voters.

 

[UsualName]

so you just made shit up with no basis for your assertion and won't provide a link.

According to you democrats are the least educated AND the most educated. Do you see the problem with that?