man, that cathlocic church really fucked you up. You still wear it on your sleeve and refuse to progress beyond what you were taught as a boy and instead of joining the light are stuck in the world of the past.
Current thinking - teach all religions. I say abolish it all
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Takes a hell of a lot of a good country to give the minority the same rights and priveleges as the majority.
Tradionally, the atheists have been treated very badly. We'll see how they they treat the beleivers once the atheists are the majority. And if your posts are any indication, I don't want to be around that long. We already went through that bullshit once.
"If it wasn't for my enemy, everything would be going just fine."
Personally, I like the inquisition method. You just round up everybody and ask them if they beleive in God and explain to them if they do they will be killed and if they don't they will be free to go and live their life as an atheist democrat.
the reason you are not a jew is because you weren't born one. Once you are born a jew, there is very little you can do to escape it. 6 million would still be alive if they could just declare they are German. The majority decides who or what the minority is.
Takes a hell of a lot of a good country to give the minority the same rights and priveleges as the majority.
Tradionally, the atheists have been treated very badly. We'll see how they they treat the beleivers once the atheists are the majority. And if your posts are any indication, I don't want to be around that long. We already went through that bullshit once.
"If it wasn't for my enemy, everything would be going just fine."
Personally, I like the inquisition method. You just round up everybody and ask them if they beleive in God and explain to them if they do they will be killed and if they don't they will be free to go and live their life as an atheist democrat.
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It seems the following is a "conventional" view. Any comments?
1. "Faith" layer can be:
1A - Faith, or
1B - No Faith.
2A. "God" layer of Faith can be:
2Aa - God, or
2Ab - No God.
2B. "God" layer of No Faith can only be:
2B - No God.
3A. "Religion" layer of "Faith and God" can only be:
3A - Religion (like Christianity, Judaism, Islam, etc.)
3B. "Religion" layer of "Faith and No God" can be :
3Ba - Religion - like Buddhism, or
3Bb - No Religion - like Agnosticism.
" An agnostic is one who believes it impossible to know anything about God or about the creation of the universe and refrains from commitment to any religious doctrine. An atheist is one who denies the existence of a deity or of divine beings. "
3C. "Religion" layer of "No Faith and No God" can only be:
No Religion (like Atheism)
" Atheism is usually defined incorrectly as a belief system. Atheism is not a disbelief in gods or a denial of gods; it is a lack of belief in gods. Older dictionaries define atheism as "a belief that there is no God." "
1. "Faith" layer can be:
1A - Faith, or
1B - No Faith.
2A. "God" layer of Faith can be:
2Aa - God, or
2Ab - No God.
2B. "God" layer of No Faith can only be:
2B - No God.
3A. "Religion" layer of "Faith and God" can only be:
3A - Religion (like Christianity, Judaism, Islam, etc.)
3B. "Religion" layer of "Faith and No God" can be :
3Ba - Religion - like Buddhism, or
3Bb - No Religion - like Agnosticism.
" An agnostic is one who believes it impossible to know anything about God or about the creation of the universe and refrains from commitment to any religious doctrine. An atheist is one who denies the existence of a deity or of divine beings. "
3C. "Religion" layer of "No Faith and No God" can only be:
No Religion (like Atheism)
" Atheism is usually defined incorrectly as a belief system. Atheism is not a disbelief in gods or a denial of gods; it is a lack of belief in gods. Older dictionaries define atheism as "a belief that there is no God." "
you can't be an atheist without first believing in God so you have something to not belieive in.
Believing in God is probably about as foolish as believing in love, but still I do it. I keep waiting for the atheists to show me how much better my life will be if I just give up my belief in God. They never seem to be very happy and always seem to be pissed off.
The starter of this thread is a good case in point. Especially around this Christmas Season, he doesn't seem to be spreading much joy.
Believing in God is probably about as foolish as believing in love, but still I do it. I keep waiting for the atheists to show me how much better my life will be if I just give up my belief in God. They never seem to be very happy and always seem to be pissed off.
The starter of this thread is a good case in point. Especially around this Christmas Season, he doesn't seem to be spreading much joy.
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I think:
Jesus' way is quite different from the above! Actually None of the above is His way!
Jesus' way would be:
- Having Faith (in the human spirit - the Comforter on earth after He left this world),
- Understanding God (for individual's equality and gift - everyone is equally a loving son of the Father God), and
- No Religion is necessary/bounded (simply living in a democratic government system as a result of people's being Jesus-likeness - a Heaven on earth)!
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