Current thinking - teach all religions. I say abolish it all

Christ-likeness is not found in the original Greek bible, AFAIK. It should be Jesus-likeness in Greek. That means we learn to be like a self-giving humble Jesus, rather than learn to be like an imaginary King-of-Kings Christ.

My analysis is I guess many of the major problems, even wars, were due to the misconception of the above terminologies. The creation of the Catholic Church would be one.

It's been proved that a Christ-likeness approach would send time and money in magnificent buildings/lands and huge organisation/staff.

However, a Jesus-likeness approach would possibly spend time and money to serve the needy/ homeless/ oppressed/ etc.

I also believe Jesus already predicted (perhaps according to his actual observations from some Jews) by saying parables such as that some non-belivers (the younger brother) could actually carry out certain things to please God (father) more than some believers (the elder brother) do.

There was a suggestion/comment within the Catholic (she was a vice chancellor of university) that the Church should give up all the wealth in order to become a better one because this way would bring the Church much closer to people.

Personally I think this is a good idea. If the Catholic Church, or any Protestant Church, can exist and function without requiring any building of bricks, that would mean the church will be very outreaching, touching people's daily life and homes. Just like many social-work field workers.

Worshipers of the Creator should be close and enjoy the Creator's creatures including fresh air, flowing waters, sun-light, flowers, birds, trees, etc. Rather than sitting inside an expensive brick-building, that can be used for the homeless or needy. Or hospitals/ schools/ job training/ etc.

Otherwise, a church worker would have to say to a homeless, " Sorry, we have to lock up our building tonight! We just can't help! Very sorry!"
 
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last I checked, the Catholic Church was the largest landowner in the world, making Trump look like a peon. Not sure if that is still true, after it was reported they may have laundered a lot of those properties.

All this information is readily available. Just go to the NRA waebsite and start clicking links. Sometimes you have to click many links to finally get to the truth or to the point where they just recycle you until you finally give them valid credit card information (it doesn't have to be yours.)
 
now all we have to do is get the science deniers on board and convince them when we talk about God we are talking about pure energy

I think God should be much more than pure energy! Already discussed a bit previously in another thread.

Do you have any good book about definition of God to recommend?

I am just starting to read Dworkin's "Religion without God" mentioned earlier.
 
Some excellent comments above. To add my two cents...regarding the God is energy thing...

In the beginning was chaos. The first structures, the first obvious hand of "God", can be seen in these. With nothing more than a few simple rules chaos is defeated. Energy is organized. Here we have the spiral, the wheel and a straight line. With hundreds of billions of stars in this one galaxy are there also not many gardens of Eden?

If one wants to know God one must study nature.

BTW Merry Christmas All.

Almost all of the "stars" seen here are in our own galaxy. See how many background galaxies you can find.
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I agree. In the beginning and all there ever has been, is the Universe. I think that makes most sense.
Merry Christmas.
 
Preach it brother. Talk about ISIS perverting Islam, that's nothing compared to what the Catholic Church did to Christianity.

We were just some disgruntled jews who were tired of it all, and He came along and said, "Aw, screw the government. Give them what they want. They only control a small part of who you really are."

and to this day, 2,000 years later, that is the conservative manifesto. "Only let them control a small part of what you really are."

and the more extreme the government gets the larger the part of us they can't control becomes

I would think a very important point in the politics history is probably when a whoever party becoming a ruling party, it will naturally change to behaving like a power control-freak and populist party. This is not healthy. However, a reality that should be improved.

Technically the size of a government could be manipulated by paying contractors to perform government's fundamental works, even during wars - in order to reduce the number of military casualties.

My idea would be individual voters after an election should pay attention to facts objectively for monitoring government performance, rather than merely party line.
 
My idea is the definition of God should better integrate all aspects of religion, philosophy and science.

I understand many people have been working on this obvious direction. I am also currently reading/studying some books on this interesting topic.

Happy Holiday Season!
 
My idea is the definition of God should better integrate all aspects of religion, philosophy and science.

I understand many people have been working on this obvious direction. I am also currently reading/studying some books on this interesting topic.

Happy Holiday Season!

Unecessary complication.
All aspects of religion, philosophy and science are defined. That's why they are called religion, philosophy and science

Defining them as God is ridiculous, at best, superfluous.
Merry Xmas.
 
http://www.elitetrader.com/et/index.php?threads/is-god-mute.292671/reply&quote=4182699

The Boundaries of Knowledge in Buddhism, Christianity and Science

Chapters
John R. Albright, Limits of Scientific Knowledge.
Tom Christenson, The Oddest Word: Paradoxes of Theological Discourse.
Antje Jackelén, “Knowing Too Much Is Knowing Too Little”: A Theological Appraisal of the Boundaries of Knowledge.
Gordon D. Kaufman, Mystery and God: Living Within the Boundaries of Human Knowledge.
David L. McMahan, Buddhism and the Epistemic Discourses of Modernity1.
Paul D. Numrich, Reality and Knowledge.
Trinh Xuan Thuan, Science and Buddhism: Two Complementary Modes of Knowledge.
Mark T. Unno, Buddhism, Christianity, and Physics: An Epistemological Turn.

http://www.ahandfulofleaves.org/doc...uddhism, Christianity and Science_Numrich.pdf


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This volume brings together insights from religion (represented by Buddhism and Christianity) and science to address the question, What can we know about reality? Here science and religion engage each other in the human endeavour to understand a reality tantalizingly beyond our ability to understand fully.
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http://muse.jhu.edu/journals/bcs/summary/v031/31.cobb.html
 
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