Crude Oil

And if you are very adept at inter market correlations and cointegration - you trade off of that knowledge. For example, there was a space of about 24 months where the CL futures contract and 6E futures contract moved, quite literally, tic for tic. I remember a space of about five years where the third month Eurodollar contract and the Japanese Yen moved tic for tic. In the Summer months, it wouldn't be unusual for the Unleaded Gasoline contract to lead the CL contract.

And when highly correlated instruments de-couple, it can also represent a very powerful signal. That's why I made my May 13 post here on this thread: "Crude firmer as a consequence of Saudi/UAE commercial vessel sabotage attacks - and in the face of another massive equities sell-off. Impressive. And bullish." And I was correct. I knew from experience that Crude Oil rallying modestly in the face of a massive 450 point sell-off in the Dow meant something very important. The correlation between Crude Oil and the broad market S&P 500 equity index (not an energy index) was about 95% up to that date.

Look at the chart:

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Not really.

When I trade CL now, what and where the signals I use? Both Asian and Europe market are closed. Whatever happened with Brent is the past. I trade on news, yes, NEWS, not old news.

I look at the most recent econ news, reports, equity index, bond yields, Ag and other energy markets. They are more important than the old news on Brent.

The long term (6-month or so) correlation is not really useful. The lag is too long. It may be of some use if you trade terms. But that is out of fashion now.
 
Not really.

When I trade CL now, what and where the signals I use? Both Asian and Europe market are closed. Whatever happened with Brent is the past. I trade on news, yes, NEWS, not old news.

I look at the most recent econ news, reports, equity index, bond yields, Ag and other energy markets. They are more important than the old news on Brent.

The long term (6-month or so) correlation is not really useful. The lag is too long. It may be of some use if you trade terms. But that is out of fashion now.

Where do you get your news ?
 
Every serious Crude Trader I know in Houston uses Platt’s. You pay $1800 per month for a Bloomberg terminal?
 
Every serious Crude Trader I know in Houston uses Platt’s. You pay $1800 per month for a Bloomberg terminal?
I read Platts' Gas Daily and MW daily. But it is not news.... You can go to PIRA etc.

There are so many news sources. You want me to list them all and bash each other ?? Interesting.
 
Not really.

When I trade CL now, what and where the signals I use? Both Asian and Europe market are closed. Whatever happened with Brent is the past. I trade on news, yes, NEWS, not old news.

I look at the most recent econ news, reports, equity index, bond yields, Ag and other energy markets. They are more important than the old news on Brent.

The long term (6-month or so) correlation is not really useful. The lag is too long. It may be of some use if you trade terms. But that is out of fashion now.
What signal are you receiving atm on oil?
Bullish, bearish, strong, weak, going nowhere...?
In case you were thinking it's because I want a tip - no.
My signal is weakly bullish or tentative bullish. Upward but not convincingly strong.
Haven't checked the latest as it's 5am here where I am and still in bed.
 
Remaining on track as it has done the previous week or so, mildly bullish but still tentative is my call, similar to the general stock market, climbing up a wall of worry. The widespread market pessimism will probably do more good for it than harm.
 
WTI supply is plentiful and there's no stopping exploding US shale production. Brent supply is tight and getting tighter, thanks to the Saudis and maybe the Russians. Saudis won't renew status quo production until they get their $85/barrel in Brent. Shale production won't slow down until WTI dips below $50. This has got to really piss off the Russians and Saudis, who are giving up huge market share to the US, at their expense.

They're projecting over 13 million a day by year end for US crude production, blowing away the Russians and Saudis. Because of this, I don't think we'll ever see meaningful sized (consecutive monthly) draws from Cushing supply, which the Saudis are targeting specifically in vain (cutting exports to US).

WTI - Brent spread should be closer to $20 than $10.

My gut feeling is that the Fed never cuts rates, causing the stock market to crash in the fall as it usually does, taking WTI prices down (below $55) with it. But maybe we see $70 this summer before we see sub $55 later this year.
 
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