Crude is screwed, man.

Apparently you don't look at the cracks because they have been crushed. Both heating oil and gasoline cracks. The refiners are the marginal buyer of crude and with crack spreads decimated, they are not going to buy.

Apparently you missed the point. The article you posted was 3 1/2 months ago, when oil was above $50 per bbl, and you intimated to go long. *shrugs*
 
Apparently you missed the point. The article you posted was 3 1/2 months ago, when oil was above $50 per bbl, and you intimated to go long. *shrugs*

No, you missed the point. Three months ago I was very bullish. SINCE then, cracks got whacked and gasoline spreads rolled over hard. I have not been bullish the past few months and won't be bullish till gasoline spreads and cracks catch a bid.
 
First, please stop your whining. The market is full of clues. WORK !!! Second, you listen to MAV but you do not receive.

I've gotten plenty of bitching about why someone would pay me to mentor them. Let me give you an example.

I've talked about the Crack Spread. Mav has talked about the Crack Spread. I've talked about inter and intra market spreads. Again, so does Mav. Throughout this entire rambling thread.

But nobody FUCKING PAYS ATTENTION. Whiny lazy bitches. Let me spoon feed you this:

The May17 Unleaded Gasoline Crack Spread contract are the green and red candles, the May17 Crude Oil contract are the light and dark blue bars.

LOOK AT THE SIX VERTICAL DARK GREEN LINES. FOR SIX DAYS the GASOLINE CRACK SPREAD HAS TELEGRAPHED THE WORLD THAT EVENTUALLY IT WAS GOING TO DRAG CRUDE OIL HIGHER WITH IT.

Spreads, man. Spreads...

So has oil gone higher based upon your spreads, since April? Did your crack spreads predict the drop to the current level? If anyone was long in April, they'd not be happy right now.

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Throughout this entire rambling thread...

And throughout this "entire rambling thread" I've said that crude is screwed. I know nothing, because obviously, your super guys were all correct, Crude has shot through the roof. I must be wrong. My charts are from China and so must be defective.

Crack spreads and forward-curve fitting? Uh huh. Look how well that worked out this time.
 
I found it amusing today that Vonnie Quinn (Bloomberg European Close) got tongue-tied and said "carbohydrons" when talking about oil equities and NYMEX instead of "hydrocarbons".
 
So has oil gone higher based upon your spreads, since April? Did your crack spreads predict the drop to the current level? If anyone was long in April, they'd not be happy right now.



And throughout this "entire rambling thread" I've said that crude is screwed. I know nothing, because obviously, your super guys were all correct, Crude has shot through the roof. I must be wrong. My charts are from China and so must be defective.

Crack spreads and forward-curve fitting? Uh huh. Look how well that worked out this time.
That's why most "experts" here who go around saying how much they know won't even go out on a limb to put some numbers on their hypotheses. Look at how much everyone is beating up Volente in his S&P top threads, but nobody ever says where they are buying, even though they are convinced its going higher. Everyone is an expert until they are asked to show an entry, target and stop.
 
This is a nice graphic showing the price of oil adjusted for inflation.

I think 20-30$ is the price it should be at (unless a major supplier is taken offline)

OPEC no longer has the power it used to


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Oil-Hedged MLP ETF Launches at Propitious Time
Amplify ETFs launched an MLP fund June 1 that aims to hedge out oil price exposure.
By
Amey Stone
Updated June 22, 2017 3:16 p.m. ET

Investors in master limited partnerships can probably immediately grasp the appeal of this idea: An MLP fund that hedges out exposure to oil prices.

Christian Magoon, CEO of Amplify ETFs, was working on the Amplify YieldShares Oil-Hedged Master Limited Partnership ETF (AMLX) for well over a year. But it was just a coincidence that the fund launched on June 1.

Crude and MLPs have swooned since then. Just Tuesday, oil entered bear market territory, down more than 20% since late February. The Alerian MLP ETF (AMLP) is down 10% in the past month.

Since launch, AMLX has outperformed AMLP by about 5 percentage points, says Magoon. That's still a loss, but less than the pure MLP index.

AMLX's goal is to reduce the volatility of investing in MLPs, says Magoon -- not to go up when MLPs are going down. The fund shorts crude oil futures to hedge exposure.

Magoon's AMLX ETF is still unproven, even though its first three weeks and years of back-testing look promising -- as does the concept.

http://www.barrons.com/articles/oil-hedged-mlp-etf-launches-at-propitious-time-1498158963
 
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